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[subtitle-meta] lang=en auto=True You know, they say data is is oil, but it's also toxic waste. >> Data is something that sounds like it should be simple, but it's not. And it can have lots of interpretations for where its value lies, who should own it, and how it should be used. Danny Phillips and I have got some very strong aligned views on data in e-commerce. He built Omnio, a platform that enables retailers to own, control, and leverage their customer data. I'm a bit earlier in the journey, but I've built Product Pelican to let retailers own, control, and leverage their product catalogs. It's a simple principle. Your data is your biggest asset. And if you don't own it, or if it lives in multiple different places, it's harder to know what to do with it. And worst of all, it means you could have have it taken away from you at any moment, too. Thanks to the support here as for supporting this episode and supporting Shopify apps all over the world. And thanks to you for listening. We've got a small but loyal audience, and your likes, subscribe, shares, they're all super valuable. And if you've enjoyed this episode, a cheeky share on your social feeds really wouldn't go astray. Danny's one of the smartest guys I know in the e-commerce world, so let's get straight into the chat. All right, Danny, thanks for joining the Shopify app show from down in sunny Torquay there. We've already um yeah, talked about how amazing your backdrop looks there for us. I wish the weather was as nice as For a winter in Melbourne. But speaking of sunny, we're talking about a a very shiny topic today in yeah, data. Data is something we're both passionate about, and I guess always sort of more owned data is the term I'm sort of I've I've put in my notes for it. I don't know if that's the right term, but yeah, want to talk about I guess Omnio and your platform has been big on this for a long time, and as we've seen the rise of yeah, things like your your social platforms that turn into ad platforms, and yeah, different SaaS tools, all of that sort of stuff, your data can end up all over the over the shop, and yeah, you with Omnio, you essentially created that central point for customer data. And so, yeah, I'd love to just hear your definition of owned data and what that means, and yeah, why Omnio matters in that regard. >> Yeah, I think we could sort of come up with this early when we were inventing um a new take on what loyalty programs were and what it meant to be known in store and online. Um and even just the term being known sort of means so many different things to different people. What does it mean? Am I opted in to marketing? Am I um do I have an account? Have I created a password for shopping online? So, all these things, depending on who you ask, will mean different things. Yeah, is it our CDP? Is it our CRM? Is it our CXP? All these different sort of acronyms that get thrown around. Um you'll also hear terms like first-party data and third-party data. Uh we think about this as the idea of a we call it zero-party data. So, it's basically, if you think if you don't think about all of your customers being one big group, but just think about one customer. So, just Martin. Um so, Martin is who Martin thinks he is with respect to these brands. Um and all the data that we save as what we call zero-party data is all the things that Martin wouldn't be surprised that we're saving about his interactions with our brand. So, does he visit our store? Now, if he visits our store, it's only if he tracks that he's visiting our store, if he checks into the store, or adds some things to his wish list wise in store or online. Um if I log into the website, then I'm not surprised that the web the brand knows who I am and that I visited their website 2 weeks ago. So, it's all this idea of not creepy, um but more of a convenience and of that known customer experience. And then our job is to say, well, why would someone bother doing that? So, why would the brand bother to ask who you are other than at the checkout? And why would a customer choose to tell you who I am um other than at the checkout when I when you might ask me, "Are you part of our marketing database or loyalty program?" which I think is the probably worst way to ask that question. So, to solve all of that, you need a platform to store all of that information should you ask and should they tell you. Um and you need to come up with all the reasons why it's worth telling you. So, what what's in it for me? What's in it for the staff member? What's in it for the brands? And it's got nothing to do with the the brands' products and what they sell and their merchandising and their promotions. It's got nothing to do with that yet. We'll get to that later, but really right now it's just why be known. What what about shopping with this brand is better for me if I do it as someone who's known and I if I do it early as soon as I I arrive, not just when I check out. That's how we sort of think about all of that stuff. >> Yeah. Yeah, and so I'm I'm going to jump a couple of steps forward actually and just say So, what what are the outcomes of that? Like from a customer perspective and a brand perspective, what what what does Yeah, having that I'm I'm going to call it Utopia. I know some people are close to it as but what do what does what are the outcomes of of that? >> There's sort of two lines that I I sort of want to go back to. The one is the what helps me shop. Like why is it easier for me to do that? So, the outcome would be a pick up where I left off experience. So, anything I do today, if I look at some products, if I maybe add them to a cart, or if I try them on, I go and think about uh omni-channel brands. If I go into a store and try some clothes on or decide what my ring size is if I'm a jewelry retailer, like that's in that's like in really important information and if you're saying we're not going to save that unless you buy something and the only possible way for us to know what size you are is by looking at your purchase history, then I think well, that's a really big missed opportunity. I gave you my time. Um so, one way to sum all this up would be what if we could always give our customers a receipt for their time. >> Mhm. >> So, if I walked out the door and this is what new information was saved about your shopping experience with us. And that receipt for our for your time is something that I'd get as a customer, but as a brands, you can imagine just like your transaction data in aggregate is really valuable, your intention data, your interaction data, all of those things that you do, which are probably buried deep down in sort of different tools at the moment. If that was just on my profile for my benefit and for your benefit as a collective in the brands, that's a huge amount of information. Like the number of brands I see that try to infer size information or intention or all this other stuff, and you sort of go, well, if you just ask me, I'll tell you what my size is. I'm Any time in this changing room, I'm doing these things. Why don't you just save it for me? >> Yeah. Yeah, and like I guess like also like you get someone's data at the checkout, you then like you beg them for their email address or try and do whatever you do to get that data, and then you send them a $10 discount code for their next purchase, but it's actually so much more valuable, isn't it, to say, "Hey, next time you come in to buy a pair of shoes, we know you're a size 10 and 1/2, so we'll just from now on, we're just going to email you with shoes that are available in size 10 and 1/2, or we'll let you know, when we get some new shoes in 10 and 1/2." Like it's it's actually that simple, isn't it, really? >> Well, it is, and I and I think also too, and we and what sort of tripped our sort of conversation earlier was this idea. I mean, you mentioned the product within a brand, so the product data and the product information so important, whereas I think that the customer is equally it's the other side of the same coin, and I think you can infer a lot about the products that you're choosing to merchandise and sell and put on sale and all these other things by the customers who buy them, but if they're if the only thing you know about the customers who buy them is that they bought them and maybe their email address, there's not much you can do with that. Whereas if you've got a richer profile, you can start inferring a lot of insight onto your products, just like you can infer a lot of insight onto your customers based on the products, not just the ones they buy. And I mean, if you're a vertically integrated brand where I you know, the the logo on the label's the same as on the door on the website, and most people buy for themselves, then you know, it's a pretty simple thing, and some off-the-shelf apps will get you a fair way, but if you're the sort of brand where a lot of people are buying for gifts for other people, you can't start making assumptions about well, the size of things that I buy are for me. So, you have Danny's buying size one rings, that's probably not going to fit his fat fingers, but it might fit the the fingers of his wife. So, like who is that and what role does she play in your purchasing journey and how can we help you buy for her not only this time, but you know, when is your anniversary? When is her birthday? How can we help you shop? I think when you talk about the promotions just before, too, everyone thinks that we need all this data so that when we need to drive sales, we can use that data to drive behavior. And sort of the way I visualize that is people like brands are going, "Here's all these customers out in the world that we've we've we know them fair and square, but they're not shopping with us today. So, we need to wake them up and push them put their hands in in their back and push them into store. Yet, there's a whole, you know, 50, 100, 1,000 customers actually in our store today and we don't care We don't care about them. We don't give them any tools to make them a better shopper. We don't plant anything into their into their profiles for next time. It's like, "Oh, the job's done there." I said, "Well, that's that's that's where the job starts. That's the start of the next transaction." And the more time you spend on that cohort, you might find we don't need to drive I don't need to send offers and discounts. I mean, bribes or loyalty mechanics or, you know, the the discounts and the offers, that's kind of they're the easy mechanics to use and that's your last resort. What are all the shopping experience mechanics that are that make you go, "You know what? If I have a choice to buy you know, t-shirts, I'm going to pick this brand because they know me and I don't have to go to the changing room anymore and and they know my size and I know what I like." That's the place I'm going to go back to, not because it's got the the biggest discount of the day. >> What's the moment a Shopify app realizes they can't keep doing support tickets themselves? >> When an app realizes that they need the help, it's already a little bit too late. And all of a sudden, you start getting 15, 20, 30 queries a day. You look at the inbox and it just keeps piling up. You sit down to build and there's just no time. That's when most app developers realize that they're a little bit in trouble. >> The Support [music] Heroes, round-the-clock support for your Shopify apps. Visit the supportheroes.com today. [music] >> I'm just thinking back to like, yeah, what the in-store experiences to to replace, almost like you go on to a website, you've got the newsletter pop-up or the loyalty pop-up or whatever it is. When you when you go on to a website, like what's the what's the in-store equivalent of that where you can and yeah, how how does that look? >> Yeah, I hate to call it in-store subscriber pop-up because I hate those things so much, but um yeah, the fact is that they they do if they if they're presented at the right time when that value can be shown to me. Uh so, we have a thing called profile portal, which is a an Omneo, one of our Omneo experiences. It's a localized QR code for every store. When you scan that QR code, it goes, "Hi there, what's your email address?" Um you pop you you know, auto-complete email address on your own phone because you're on your own phone. Um and if we know you, it says, "Welcome back." And you can pick up where you left off. And if we don't know you, it goes, "Well, let's get to know you. Here's the basic information we need to get you over the line." And yes, we can offer you something as well, but I'd like to offer you a set of utilities that make the shopping experience better today. Um and it's different to just sending people to the website because the website's going to try website you. It's going to try convert you cuz that's what it's optimized to do. And it'll probably show you a subscriber pop-up. Um so, the profile portal's job is to say, "Well, what would a my account page or a loyalty card look like if I was only using it in store?" And and that's what it's sort of designed to do. Um and then, yeah, scan some products into my own wish list. And also, we see from a data and data privacy point of view, which is a pretty big topic that a lot of brands are starting to take more seriously here Australia. Other markets obviously take it seriously straight out of the gate. Um but the idea of me reading out my mobile number and email address out loud for you to try to type down over the counter is probably not where we're going to end up in the long run. So, if I can say to you, look, scan this QR code and just quickly put your email address in on your phone and then it's going to pop up on my screen and I as a staff member don't even really need to see your mobile number or email address. I probably shouldn't see it. So, now one click on your phone, now I can add this sale to your account and we're good to go. So, you can't Some of that flow might not work if you do it just at the point where they got some cash ready to give you. So, it's really important to go, well, let's get that QR code further back into the store experience. Let's put it on our sales team's badges so that we can do it while we're on the floor and sort of sell that reason to be known earlier at the start of the visit. So, there's a a lot of cultural change um both on the shopper side and the staff side to sort of achieve that utopia, but we think it's worth it. >> Yeah, absolutely. You see like I think of Uniqlo as an example where they've kind of got some really interesting touch points there, don't they? Like you go to the You go to the checkout there and like even just like the physical change of like they don't even scan a barcode anymore. You put all the products in like a sort of a bucket thing and it it just picks up the chips on them all and then you scan your app and your payment's stored on there and so the behavior's definitely changing and yeah, there's just so much great opportunity to try new things and and explore more different stuff with the way you you get that [snorts] data, but also yeah, turn it back into something that makes that customer experience better. >> I think if you were to ask a question to yourself as a brand, it's like, well, what I mean, we there's this default assumption that we we cannot know who they are until they're ready to buy something. That's just the rules. Like we we don't ask who they are and we cannot know. Shop advice changing that. Like they're really leaning into the whole login with Shop, not just check out with Shop. They've got bit right, which is just amazing. But now they're doing login with Shop. So, the whole idea is when you're on this site, tell us who you are. Let's Let's Ah, welcome back, Martin. Let's Let's pick up where you left off. And brands that are building pick up where you left off experiences into their websites. So, now we know it's Martin, let's change the website to be a little bit more Martin specific. Martin Let's narrow it all the way down. I think sometimes you can go too far. We still We don't know what you might like to discover or if you're buying for someone else. But this website was 100% brand and 0% me. So, imagine if I logged in and it went to sort of 80% brand, 20% me. And what would the home page look like if it was more of a let's pick up where you left off, Martin, home page as opposed to this is what we need to sell this week, Martin. I I hope you can help us because we need to sell it. Don't really care who you are and what you need. This is the stuff I've got to sell. So, I just balancing that out a little bit would sort of radically change how you think about the experience. And same for stores. What would the store experience be if we could know who you were when you walked in? What would that look like? What would that script change to if we could if we could know that? >> Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Like it's like it buy it again is like the most obvious one, isn't it? Where you don't need the algorithm to surface the product someone buys every 2 months on the on the home page to you if they buy it if it's a a serum that they purchase on a beauty store or a t-shirt or socks that they always just buy in the same way. Like just surfacing that stuff and then stuff that's similar to it is not actually There's There's no Yeah, there's no rocket science behind it, is there? It's just a >> But I think the other thing, too, we talk a lot about recommendations and AI about recommendations and all this great There's you know, there's any number of platforms really willing to take your money if you want a recommendations engine out there. But if I spend time in a store, I mean, you think about it, for most omni-channel retailers, their online sales is 15 to 20% of all sales. So, 80% of sales coming from the store experience. Conversion rate in store is 15 to 20%. So, there's a lot of people that's more intentional, but there's still a lot of people just spending time in store that aren't shopping. >> Yeah. >> Um if if I said to you I that you visit one of our stores as part of that experience, we can very easily scan the products that you didn't buy today, but we that you told us you were interested in as a human to a human this in real life experience. I save that to your profile as a and then when you left the door left the store, I as a staff member went, "You know what? I reckon you'd also like these things now I think about it." Um I'm going to attach these other things to him and send a little message. Now, yes that could go as an email, but I don't open my emails from brands. So, I go back to the website shop log in the shop and I'm back in. Welcome back, Danny. And it's gone, "Here's a little message from um Martin that served you last week. Here's some products that he also thought you might like." So, yes here's the buy again the shirt that I bought off Martin 2 weeks ago. Yeah. It's buy it again, no worries in another color, but also here's some other ideas that he personally thought. Now, an AI recommendation probably scales a lot better, but they're a diamond dozen, but to know that someone's been time putting those three items in a little, you know, lookbook for me or something that I might follow up with, I just have a feeling that that's probably going to probably resonate with me a little bit more and that home page of your brand for me, you know, as curated by Martin that served me last week it's going to feel a lot better. I mean, it depends on the price point of the brand, how long people dwell. You know, some high you know, high volume high sort of speed stores can probably can't get away with that sort of level of service, but there are plenty of brands that are now trying to justify premium store experiences, this is how you do that. >> Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And yeah, it gets me thinking as well like beyond the um like it's not that hard to present it to a customer that does purchase regularly. How do you um how do you then reflect that across I guess firstly like a customer who doesn't purchase that regularly? Like how do you make the most out of the data of a customer who's just come into the store for the first time. You want to turn them you want to move them from the the outer rings of your atmosphere right into the core. How do you Yeah, what can you do to sort of Yeah, use that data to the best? >> Yeah, look I think you know the the one and done customer is like the number of brands. I mean they often focus on the return customer rate and they'll see some you know customers who do return return often that 80/20 rule, but they just the sheer number of people that only ever shop once is mind-boggling for a lot of brands. Um and it's because generally the better their the paid advertising is they're sort of just in the moment Instagram ad that just I Whatever that brand is I don't care about that product I'll have that now and the algorithm served it up exactly at the moment that I'm in the market for that particular thing. Um but I'm not a brand member and you'll accidentally get my email address I'll accidentally you know opt in and you'll you'll send me a thousand emails, but none of it's going to cut through cuz I won't even open them. So our our sort of way of thinking is in store or online once I make that first purchase what's in the packaging? Like I think there's an old analogy there's a restaurant I can't remember what it's called like it's the red napkin theory go and look that Google it for for restaurants where if it's your first time here we put the red napkin down and we're going to give you a special level of service. That first delivery is going to be a bit different. The way we uh put things in a bag if it's in store it's going to be a little bit different. We're going to put a special offer in in there that's a good offer a really good offer but a short time to get you to shop a second time. Cuz once you get that Yeah, and I think people talk about frequency and all this other stuff, but I'd just be going who's my one and dones? How many of those are converting to a second shop and then to a third shop? And once you get to third shop onwards then we're talking about loyalty program stuff, but that one to two two to three you should have a whole team dedicated to to making to optimizing that conversion funnel. It's not a conversion funnel of a visit to a purchase. It's a purchase to the next purchase. So, it's a it's a longer time frame. Um but yeah, good offers, um you know, loyalty, bounce backs, you know, if you throw 50% off or, you know, some 20% off voucher to sign up in the first place to get that first voucher, then I'm probably not going to bite on anything less than that for a second purchase. So, you a lot of people are acquiring the wrong kind of bottom feeder discount customers in the first place. So, yeah, you sort of want to focus on what what what are also going to capture during that store experience that's not price related. So, a size, if it's a if it's a apparel brands, just saying you bought something in store, is that for you? Is that for your size? While you're in the change room, why don't you put on a top or some pants as well, even though you're not going to buy them, so that I can say that's now on your profile ready for next time. Yeah, you should shop with us again because this is a better experience. >> Yeah, absolutely. Like Amazon's a good example there, aren't they? Like you but make your first purchase with Amazon, they give you Prime for free, they express post it for free, they Yeah, I'm sure they're not they're they're probably not making money on the first purchase or two that you make or somewhere, but yeah, you're you're in their web. And obviously their web's much bigger than a than a single brand retailer, but but yeah, that's it. It's getting that that they know the things to do to get that second purchase and and it's and it's not what they want to do >> [clears throat] >> either, is it? >> And a lot of brands probably, rightly or wrongly, they'll they'll really focus on that acquisition, that first purchase. They'll give away all their margin on the discount that got you through the door in the first place, so they can't afford to give you the the better follow-up experience cuz they've already blown it all on the acquisition in the first place. Um I would rather It's a, you know, it takes a bit of guts to do it. The brands should be dialing all that back and going, "I can give you $10 to join or give you $20 on your next shop. Which would you prefer?" So, I'd say if if going from one to the other strategy reduces the acquisition by half. I'm all for that if the number of people that return is higher. I think the the longer even longer term I'm not talking multi-year. I'm just talking even the first 6 months or 12 month revenue from that cohort would be so much more on the margin and the profit would be so much more than this sort of vanity metric acquisition based strategies that a lot of brands are taking. >> Yeah, absolutely. And that's it. That like that to me that's one of the most like it's a perfect example of just moving the needle a little bit. You still see $20 when you pop up on the site and see when you place an order you get $20 store credit or a $20 voucher. But yeah, if it if that's something you can use on your second order then yeah, you're not losing the margin off those one-off purchases. Like yeah, like you or I probably go and shop for Mother's Day and go to a shop that we're not going to go to again ever or worse not until Christmas or next Mother's Day. So why give us a $10 discount off our first order? Give that >> Yeah, we we we did need that but as part of that process let me when I when the gift arrives or send me a separate email that says why don't you register your mom's birth date with us and then next year we'll come back to you and remind you well in advance that we've got a great new gift for her that's won't let you don't you accidentally buy the same thing you bought her last year. But yeah, you know, there's some really interesting sort of help me shop mechanics. I think that's if I was to sum it all up help me shop. Don't help yourselves. I help me shop. So what what mechanics can you put that would do that? >> Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And um we've actually got about 15 more questions I want to ask you actually out of this conversation. And I said I was going to try and keep it to about 25 minutes. So I'm going to try and um fire off with a couple of different topics just to get a quick take from you. But um I'd love to just not like the the other thing with data is just the messiness of it. Like it's almost and I say like you when I used to do platform migrations for people to Shopify, like I always said to the clients like you your best opportunity to have clean data is day one because if it's not clean on day one, it's going to be shot in 3 years time when you get to your next re-platform or rebuild journey. So, yeah, how do you navigate people like who've got all this rich data and have yeah, third-party sources like you you're still going to have marketing platforms that are doing stuff for you and your e-com platform and POS system, whatever. Like how how do you help people navigate that and what can they do to actually keep their database to be what they want their data to be. Yeah. >> Look, I think plugging in a lot of little best-of-breed tools sometimes can be it can help with achieve a strategy but can create a lot of noise and mess as you probably know. And yeah, the the prevalence of especially in Shopify ecosystem of little apps that all create a new customer experience is sort of great solution to some problems but it creates other problems. I would like the one tip I would give is make the customer part of the solution. >> Mhm. >> Like I I think we spend so much time trying to stitch together identities and do all this work in secret without including the customer. So, my >> Yeah. >> my biggest thing is log in, who are you? This is what we know about you, is it right? Do you want to keep any of this? Do you like what don't you care about? And if you don't engage then they say data is is oil but it's also toxic waste. So, you got to be careful on what you keep. So, we have some brands that if you don't if you opted out and you haven't bought for a few years, just delete the whole all account. We keep the the depersonalized history so you got some metrics. But if the customer comes back and joins again, they join fresh and that's you know, they haven't touched the brand for two or three years, don't keep them for the sake of it. So, whereas we find if I as a customer can see all of my transaction history, yeah, maybe for decades for some of the brands we work with we've got 17 years of history for some of the brands. Then I as a customer, it's my asset. Like that's my profile like and that's my home address and it's not correct. It's in my interest to keep it all up-to-date. So make it in my interest to look and keep my profile clean and great all my relatives birth dates because it's a gifting type brand or whatever else or my size information. If you If it's in my interest to keep the data clean, then I will. And then for brands for customers that don't care to keep their data clean, then don't worry about cleaning their data. Don't Don't blow a whole lot of your time and money and effort trying to clean data that doesn't matter anyway. So you sort of focus on what matters cuz you know, resources are are finite. So that's the So you can Here's our good golden records that we can trust and the customers are engaged with and can see them looking at it and they go, "Yep, that's me." Then that's what I'd focus on and then don't worry too much about the sort of long tail of scrappy data. Just let it sort of dissolve and disappear and prune it off quickly. >> Yeah, data is oil but it's also toxic waste. I've just written that down as that's going to be the headlines of this episode. I like that. Um >> Yeah, it goes without saying as these privacy laws change, I think everyone's going to start thinking carefully about the data they choose to keep. >> Yeah, no, absolutely. And um and the last topic I wanted to hit you up on was loyalty cuz I think that's a space that I think um has Yeah, it's become pretty stale, I think. And people starting to do new stuff and trying new stuff but like I I see just like the points-based loyalty system is kind of it it's it's struggling and even the ones that have been the the beacons of hope, the Quantases and stuff and and Virgin and airlines like they're the ones that have had those programs that have been so compelling for so long that people are starting to even lose faith in those now. So So what does Yeah, what is a good loyalty program look like now? >> Yeah, look, I I'd use the whole help us sell help them shop mentality. Like is this program all about helping us sell or is it about helping them shop? So just check yourself on those things first. The The sets of mechanics are your points, tiers, achievements, rewards, benefits, statuses. They're all the sort of common mechanics that we see. I'd be really careful as a brand if you are I call it this sort of continuum of grudge purchases versus discretionary or enjoyment purchases. So, if I'm a fashion retail brand, I'm sort of down here. If I'm everyday wear, you know, sort of I'm probably in the middle. And if I'm a airline or Telco, I don't want to buy my I have to have a phone. I need to fly to Sydney. I don't want to. But I have to, so that's grudge purchase. So, a lot of the mechanics that work really well down in grudge purchase don't work up here. We have a lot of brands go, you know, the CEO loves flying, loves being a platinum plus member on, you know, Velocity. So, he wants to bring all those mechanics over to his fashion brand. It's like, well, that doesn't They don't translate very well. So, that's one trap I'd avoid really quickly. The other one is just attention span. Like, when I go to buy um from a uh a jewelry brands, I don't I really don't want to join your loyalty program, no matter how pretty and beautifully designed it is. I really don't. I will if I if I have to, but I'm here to buy some jewelry for someone I care about. Or I'm here to, you know, put some clothes on my back because the other stuff's looking old and worn. So, help me do those things. And if if as a result of that there's some benefits that I can start discovering over time, then I'll happily engage with those things. So, the the best way to to really get this short is that there's status, access, power, and stuff. Right? So, most brands just focus on stuff, but think about status, access, and power. And if you can combine mechanics that give me status, give me access to things that I normally wouldn't have access to, so exclusive drops, pre-ordering, all those other things. The power, so I've earned a reward, but I can't use it. But Martin, you're a nice guy, so I'm going to give you my reward that I've earned to you. So, it's not a refer a friend. It's like, I've earned a reward fair and square. It's as good as money. I'm going to give it to you. And the whole, you know, that's a very different mechanic now. Loss aversion bias for yourself and myself kicks in. Yeah, it's a better way of thinking about those incentives. And then stuff, yes, the discount of the points or whatever else. That should be a last resort. They're just there table stakes stuff to catch some of the scraps at the edges, but the status access and power. And then also realize that your customers fall on a continuum of casual, I'm just here to buy some stuff and if I happen to discover some mechanics, then so be it. And you've got your fanatics and prosumers. So prosumers and then fanatics, the people who do enjoy engaging with some interesting gamification mechanics or other things. So you still need to cater for them cuz they're often the the the thin edge of the wedge that generate a lot of revenue. Um just be realistic about how many people will actively engage with those mechanics. It'll generally be you know, 5, 10, 15% of your audience, but they might generate 50%, 60% of your revenue. So it's worth it's worth doing it. And the last little tip I'd give there is just be careful of uh just ask yourself when you whenever you're going to like a a pet shop and they go, "Oh, it says you've got $7 here. Would you like to redeem it?" Oh, okay. Did I didn't I totally forgotten about that, but I'll use it. That's marginal. Like if I didn't come back in to use it, then you're really just giving it away for no reason. It might keep me loyal in that grudge territory end, but just be careful of the discover at checkout benefits because I'm already there at that point. You should have I should have been there to redeem. Yeah. And then long liabilities, that's the last one. So just be careful of those. Points mechanics have this really nasty liability effect that can build up. So just talk to your accountants and just make sure that the mechanics that you're choosing don't bite you in the butt when it comes to long-term liabilities. >> Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that the point on like the the giving people rewards that they don't even know about is is so valid cuz also it can also then lead to like to piss that customer off too. Like if you go into the store one time and they say, "Oh, you've got $7 on your account." You you then become addicted to those discounts and the next time you go in you don't get $7 off you're kind of a bit annoyed and when you've you've kind of given someone something and ended up actually not increasing their their satisfaction and loyalty, have you? So, it's yeah, it's actually just not not over engineering. That's the the key thing. >> of brands, again, if you're vertically if you're vertically integrated, you've got some choices, but if you're a a house of brands, so like a pet food shop or a department store, you what you find and what you can probably smell a mile away, maybe consumers can't, but uh so this whole program is not about it's becoming a retail media program as opposed to a loyalty program. So, we're saying so when I go to some like a pet food store and I see I can get double points on this but not on the one that I buy, it's because that that particular brand is funding that offer. So, all of a sudden it becomes a you know, it's more about a a set of mechanics to sell to upstream to the suppliers um and sell my customers to them as opposed to looking after my customers. So, I think that retail media the idea that you know what, I'm not interested in making my customers' lives any better, I'm interested in monetizing my customers' attention to the people that you know, maybe would buy retail media space or or or you know, fund the discounts so I don't have to fund them myself. I think once you get really deep in it's it's appealing and you probably have to do it mechanically, you probably have to, but I just feel like if that's the guts of your loyalty program, then yeah, it's it's pretty soulless from a customer experience point of view. >> Yeah, no, absolutely and yeah, you've got to keep it fresh, keep it engaged, keep it yeah, simple for people to understand and then it's also simple for the marketing team to then keep innovating and doing new stuff, isn't it? >> Yeah, well, they can they I mean, they still have their targets to hit. So, I get that they need tools that say if I need to hit a sales target or if I need to move some stock or whatever, like they they need to have access to the customers to pull them in to solve these problems, but my thesis is if you just help them shop, just like they will turn up enough and then all of a sudden all those big problems you're trying to fix and those targets, maybe they'll just look after themselves more because you've got an army of people that will choose you first always and choose you sooner because you've you go and you know what? Don't wait 3 weeks to buy it, buy it now. Like come in now. Why wait? There's so many brands right now, I won't name them, but you you probably can name them yourselves, that I think to myself, oh, I need to get that you know, cushion or some some tableware or something. I go, you know I need to wait because I know that on usually three times a year they go on this particular spend I'm not going to say the name of the campaign, but they'll go on a particular campaign and that's when I shop cuz as a one of their loyal customers, I would be stupid to buy it outside of their promotional calendar. So I need to wait. And Black Friday's the same. I'm not someone that would buy on sale, but we're getting now to July, August. Everyone stop buying and we all just wait, right? All those big purchases, we stop buying now and we wait. And like what a what a crazy thing the industry's done to train us um into all waiting for this particular sale period. >> Yeah, it's a race it's a race to the bottom. That was going to actually be the next thing I asked you about anyway was the Black Friday. Like where are we heading with that this year because it gets earlier and earlier, longer and longer, the discounts have to be bigger and bigger to get customers' attention. Like what's a I I if I was a retailer, I'd actually be really struggling to think of an innovative strategy for it this year. >> Oh, look like personally, I just I don't want to There's so many people throwing so much attention at it. I just don't want to be any part of that solution. I'll I'll give you customers as part of our platform that you can weaponize and beat over the head with all your offers as soon as you want to run them. Whatever. That's got nothing to do with me. My job is to make sure that all of those customers that you're about to beat over the head, I'm hoping that I can give them enough reasons to want to shop with you every single day that they're like when I've got a problem to solve that involves your product. >> Yeah. >> I will choose you and I'll choose you now because I have a great experience. I'll pick up where I left off. They'll know me. It'll I'll get some sort of incentive to make it feel like I'm not just paying full price. Like I I feel like I'm getting value, but really work on the word value, not a deal. And give me that value and then I won't need to worry about you know, for that other brands, definitely not waiting for them for Black Friday, but for you, I need it now and having 3 months of enjoyment of that product, I'm actually going to really appreciate that. So I'm just going to come and shop with you. >> Um that's the sort of stuff that I'm So I'm trying to build an alternative. >> Yeah. >> I'm never going to win. Like I can't It's the force of gravity on Black Friday is just too huge, but there are some brands out Patagonia, there's some brands out there that don't participate in that. And you know, they're not part of the sort of blood in the water sort of experience, but their sales are pretty consistent all the way through and they and their margins are much higher. So they just get to hold the line and not get caught up in all of that. >> Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And I think like all the stuff we've talked about today to me is stuff too that like you you get a lot of first time customers around that time of year or on one-off customers. And you've there's 4 weeks between Black Friday and Christmas, which >> Yeah. >> there's still people have to do Christmas shopping and I think the thing I've seen is I think people there's a lot of fatigue where I think people they to try and go earlier and harder and faster with Black Friday, I see like across the e-commerce industry and on the same I I kind of want to put the cue in the rack after Black Friday and have that last few weeks doing long lunches before Christmas, but that that's actually there's a lot of opportunity in that window to use all that customer growth you've had over that period to to re-engage while while there's >> still an iron in the fire there. So >> As long as you give yourself some room to to use it though. I think I think they just the brands use up all their oxygen too, right? So they go, "I've got nothing left. I've got no I've got no offers to give you. I've like I gave you literally everything. I've lost money on the sale. How can I possibly give you a better follow-up experience cuz I'm already and all those returns that are now flowing back in in in late November, December, like man, like once that whole quarter gets finished like a whole lot of activity, but who actually made some money, right? So, what you do with those customers though and don't be disheartened when most of them don't come back cuz they won't cuz they're not your type of customer. They're not part of your tribe. They're just people who look for a deal in that product that you just happen to sell that happened to have your brand logo on it. Um so, yeah, I I did so you just got to filter out all the the ones that are in amongst that that were really good and try to get them on the train so that next year hopefully they won't be the ones that chew up that that sort of low margin activity. You sort of want your best customers not to be part of that. >> Yeah. No, absolutely. And look, Danny, I'm I'm going to wrap it up there. Like I said, but I've got about 15 other questions I can could ask you, but I always when it Maybe we do. Yeah, I think and um I I think every time we chat like I think the thing you can take away is that there's have good quality data. Understand your customers and do practical stuff with it. Like there's always something you can be doing and I think putting the putting yourself in the perspective of the customers and creating a better experience for them with the data. It's it's win-win for all the metrics that people have if they're running a business. So, yeah, everything you've shared there I think's got to be useful for someone and um yeah, there's a there's a really good playbook I'll do one of my playbook articles to come out of this one too, I think cuz there there's so much stuff people can take away and use across whether it's Black Friday or their slowest part of the year or Mother's Day what whatever it is. So, no, thank you so much for sharing it and all of the sharing you do through through what you do at Omnia. So, um yeah, I look forward to [music] sharing this and yeah, we'll definitely have to do a part two soon. >> Excellent. Oh, thanks for having me. >> Cheers, Danny. See you.
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Danny's one of the smartest guys I know
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in the e-commerce world, so let's get
 

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in the e-commerce world, so let's get
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straight into the chat. All right,
 

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straight into the chat. All right,
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Danny, thanks for joining the Shopify
 

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Danny, thanks for joining the Shopify
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app show from down in sunny Torquay
 

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app show from down in sunny Torquay
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there. We've already um yeah, talked
 

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there. We've already um yeah, talked
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about how amazing your backdrop looks
 

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about how amazing your backdrop looks
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there for us.
 

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there for us.
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I wish the weather was as nice as
 

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I wish the weather was as nice as
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For a winter in Melbourne.
 

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For a winter in Melbourne.
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But speaking of sunny, we're talking
 

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But speaking of sunny, we're talking
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about a a very shiny topic today in
 

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about a a very shiny topic today in
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yeah, data. Data is something we're both
 

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yeah, data. Data is something we're both
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passionate about, and I guess always
 

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passionate about, and I guess always
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sort of more owned data is the term I'm
 

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sort of more owned data is the term I'm
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sort of I've I've put in my notes for
 

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sort of I've I've put in my notes for
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it. I don't know if that's the right
 

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it. I don't know if that's the right
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term, but yeah, want to talk about I
 

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term, but yeah, want to talk about I
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guess Omnio and your platform has been
 

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guess Omnio and your platform has been
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big on this for a long time, and as
 

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big on this for a long time, and as
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we've seen the rise of yeah, things like
 

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we've seen the rise of yeah, things like
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your your social platforms that turn
 

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your your social platforms that turn
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into ad platforms, and yeah, different
 

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into ad platforms, and yeah, different
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SaaS tools, all of that sort of stuff,
 

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SaaS tools, all of that sort of stuff,
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your data can end up all over the over
 

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your data can end up all over the over
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the shop, and yeah, you with Omnio, you
 

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the shop, and yeah, you with Omnio, you
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essentially created that central point
 

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essentially created that central point
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for customer data. And so, yeah, I'd
 

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for customer data. And so, yeah, I'd
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love to just hear your definition of
 

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love to just hear your definition of
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owned data and what that means, and
 

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owned data and what that means, and
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yeah, why Omnio matters in that regard.
 

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yeah, why Omnio matters in that regard.
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&gt;&gt; Yeah, I think we could sort of come up
 

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&gt;&gt; Yeah, I think we could sort of come up
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with this early when we were inventing
 

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with this early when we were inventing
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um a new take on what loyalty programs
 

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um a new take on what loyalty programs
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were and what it meant to be known in
 

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were and what it meant to be known in
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store and online.
 

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store and online.
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Um and even just the term being known
 

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sort of means so many different things
 

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sort of means so many different things
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to different people. What does it mean?
 

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to different people. What does it mean?
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Am I opted in to marketing? Am I um do I
 

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have an account? Have I created a
 

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have an account? Have I created a
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password for shopping online? So, all
 

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password for shopping online? So, all
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these things, depending on who you ask,
 

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these things, depending on who you ask,
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will mean different things. Yeah, is it
 

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will mean different things. Yeah, is it
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our CDP? Is it our CRM? Is it our CXP?
 

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our CDP? Is it our CRM? Is it our CXP?
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All these different sort of acronyms
 

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that get thrown around. Um you'll also
 

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that get thrown around. Um you'll also
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hear terms like first-party data and
 

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hear terms like first-party data and
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third-party data.
 

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third-party data.
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Uh we think about this as the idea of a
 

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we call it zero-party data. So, it's
 

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we call it zero-party data. So, it's
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basically, if you think if you don't
 

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basically, if you think if you don't
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think about all of your customers being
 

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think about all of your customers being
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one big group, but just think about one
 

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one big group, but just think about one
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customer. So, just Martin. Um so, Martin
 

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customer. So, just Martin. Um so, Martin
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is who Martin thinks he is with respect
 

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is who Martin thinks he is with respect
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to these brands. Um and all the data
 

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to these brands. Um and all the data
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that we save as what we call zero-party
 

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that we save as what we call zero-party
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data is all the things that Martin
 

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data is all the things that Martin
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wouldn't be surprised that we're saving
 

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wouldn't be surprised that we're saving
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about his interactions with our brand.
 

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about his interactions with our brand.
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So, does he visit our store? Now, if he
 

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So, does he visit our store? Now, if he
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visits our store, it's only if he tracks
 

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visits our store, it's only if he tracks
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that he's visiting our store, if he
 

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that he's visiting our store, if he
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checks into the store, or adds some
 

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checks into the store, or adds some
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things to his wish list wise in store or
 

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things to his wish list wise in store or
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online. Um
 

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online. Um
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if I log into the website, then I'm not
 

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if I log into the website, then I'm not
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surprised that the web the brand knows
 

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surprised that the web the brand knows
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who I am and that I visited their
 

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who I am and that I visited their
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website 2 weeks ago. So, it's all this
 

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website 2 weeks ago. So, it's all this
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idea of not creepy, um but more of a
 

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idea of not creepy, um but more of a
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convenience and of that known customer
 

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convenience and of that known customer
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experience. And then our job is to say,
 

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experience. And then our job is to say,
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well, why would someone bother doing
 

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well, why would someone bother doing
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that? So, why would the brand bother to
 

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that? So, why would the brand bother to
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ask who you are
 

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ask who you are
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other than at the checkout? And why
 

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other than at the checkout? And why
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would a customer choose to tell you who
 

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would a customer choose to tell you who
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other than at the checkout when I when
 

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other than at the checkout when I when
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you might ask me, "Are you part of our
 

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you might ask me, "Are you part of our
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marketing database or loyalty program?"
 

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marketing database or loyalty program?"
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which I think is the probably worst way
 

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which I think is the probably worst way
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to ask that question.
 

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to ask that question.
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So, to solve all of that, you need a
 

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platform to store all of that
 

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platform to store all of that
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information should you ask and should
 

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information should you ask and should
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they tell you. Um and you need to come
 

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they tell you. Um and you need to come
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up with all the reasons why it's worth
 

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up with all the reasons why it's worth
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telling you. So, what what's in it for
 

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telling you. So, what what's in it for
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me? What's in it for the staff member?
 

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me? What's in it for the staff member?
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What's in it for the brands? And it's
 

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What's in it for the brands? And it's
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got nothing to do with the the brands'
 

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got nothing to do with the the brands'
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products and what they sell and their
 

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products and what they sell and their
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merchandising and their promotions. It's
 

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merchandising and their promotions. It's
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got nothing to do with that yet. We'll
 

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got nothing to do with that yet. We'll
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get to that later, but really right now
 

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get to that later, but really right now
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it's just why be known. What what about
 

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it's just why be known. What what about
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shopping with this brand is better for
 

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shopping with this brand is better for
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me if I do it as someone who's known and
 

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me if I do it as someone who's known and
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I if I do it early as soon as I I
 

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I if I do it early as soon as I I
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arrive, not just when I check out.
 

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arrive, not just when I check out.
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That's how we sort of think about all of
 

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That's how we sort of think about all of
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that stuff.
 

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that stuff.
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&gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah, and so I'm I'm going to jump
 

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&gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah, and so I'm I'm going to jump
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a couple of steps forward actually and
 

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a couple of steps forward actually and
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just say So, what what are the outcomes
 

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just say So, what what are the outcomes
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of that? Like from a customer
 

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of that? Like from a customer
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perspective and a brand perspective,
 

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perspective and a brand perspective,
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what what what does Yeah, having that
 

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what what what does Yeah, having that
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I'm I'm going to call it Utopia. I know
 

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I'm I'm going to call it Utopia. I know
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some people are close to it as but what
 

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some people are close to it as but what
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do what does what are the outcomes of of
 

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do what does what are the outcomes of of
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that?
 

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that?
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&gt;&gt; There's sort of two lines that I I sort
 

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&gt;&gt; There's sort of two lines that I I sort
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of want to go back to. The one is the
 

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of want to go back to. The one is the
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what helps me shop. Like why is it
 

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what helps me shop. Like why is it
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easier for me to do that? So, the
 

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easier for me to do that? So, the
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outcome would be a pick up where I left
 

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outcome would be a pick up where I left
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off experience. So, anything I do today,
 

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off experience. So, anything I do today,
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if I look at some products, if I maybe
 

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if I look at some products, if I maybe
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add them to a cart, or if I try them on,
 

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add them to a cart, or if I try them on,
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I go and think about uh omni-channel
 

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I go and think about uh omni-channel
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brands. If I go into a store and try
 

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brands. If I go into a store and try
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some clothes on or decide what my ring
 

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some clothes on or decide what my ring
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size is if I'm a jewelry retailer, like
 

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size is if I'm a jewelry retailer, like
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that's in that's like in really
 

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that's in that's like in really
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important information and if you're
 

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important information and if you're
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saying we're not going to save that
 

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saying we're not going to save that
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unless you buy something and the only
 

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unless you buy something and the only
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possible way for us to know what size
 

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possible way for us to know what size
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you are is by looking at your purchase
 

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you are is by looking at your purchase
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then I think well, that's a really big
 

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then I think well, that's a really big
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missed opportunity. I gave you my time.
 

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missed opportunity. I gave you my time.
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Um so,
 

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one way to sum all this up would be what
 

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one way to sum all this up would be what
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if we could always give our customers a
 

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if we could always give our customers a
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receipt for their time.
 

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receipt for their time.
&gt;&gt; Mhm.

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&gt;&gt; Mhm.
 

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&gt;&gt; Mhm.
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&gt;&gt; So, if I walked out the door and this is
 

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&gt;&gt; So, if I walked out the door and this is
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what new information was saved about
 

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what new information was saved about
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your shopping experience with us. And
 

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your shopping experience with us. And
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that receipt for our for your time is
 

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that receipt for our for your time is
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something that I'd get as a customer,
 

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something that I'd get as a customer,
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but as a brands, you can imagine just
 

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but as a brands, you can imagine just
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like your transaction data in aggregate
 

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like your transaction data in aggregate
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is really valuable, your intention data,
 

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is really valuable, your intention data,
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your interaction data, all of those
 

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your interaction data, all of those
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things that you do, which are probably
 

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things that you do, which are probably
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buried deep down in sort of different
 

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buried deep down in sort of different
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tools at the moment. If that was just on
 

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tools at the moment. If that was just on
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my profile for my benefit and for your
 

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my profile for my benefit and for your
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benefit as a collective in the brands,
 

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benefit as a collective in the brands,
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that's a huge amount of information.
 

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that's a huge amount of information.
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Like the number of brands I see that try
 

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to infer size information or intention
 

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to infer size information or intention
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or all this other stuff, and you sort of
 

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or all this other stuff, and you sort of
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go, well, if you just ask me, I'll tell
 

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go, well, if you just ask me, I'll tell
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you what my size is. I'm Any time in
 

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you what my size is. I'm Any time in
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this changing room, I'm doing these
 

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this changing room, I'm doing these
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things. Why don't you just save it for
 

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things. Why don't you just save it for
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me?
 

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me?
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&gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah, and like I guess like also
 

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&gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah, and like I guess like also
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like you get someone's data at the
 

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like you get someone's data at the
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checkout, you then like you beg them for
 

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checkout, you then like you beg them for
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their email address or try and do
 

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their email address or try and do
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whatever you do to get that data, and
 

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whatever you do to get that data, and
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then you send them a $10 discount code
 

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then you send them a $10 discount code
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for their next purchase, but it's
 

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for their next purchase, but it's
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actually so much more valuable, isn't
 

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actually so much more valuable, isn't
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it, to say, "Hey, next time you come in
 

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it, to say, "Hey, next time you come in
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to buy a pair of shoes, we know you're a
 

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to buy a pair of shoes, we know you're a
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size 10 and 1/2, so
 

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size 10 and 1/2, so
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we'll just from now on, we're just going
 

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we'll just from now on, we're just going
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to email you with shoes that are
 

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to email you with shoes that are
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available in size 10 and 1/2, or we'll
 

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available in size 10 and 1/2, or we'll
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let you know, when we get some new shoes
 

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let you know, when we get some new shoes
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in 10 and 1/2." Like it's it's actually
 

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in 10 and 1/2." Like it's it's actually
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that simple, isn't it, really?
 

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that simple, isn't it, really?
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&gt;&gt; Well, it is, and I and I think also too,
 

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&gt;&gt; Well, it is, and I and I think also too,
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and we and what sort of tripped our sort
 

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and we and what sort of tripped our sort
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of conversation earlier was this idea. I
 

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of conversation earlier was this idea. I
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mean, you mentioned the product within a
 

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mean, you mentioned the product within a
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brand, so the product data and the
 

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brand, so the product data and the
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product information so important,
 

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product information so important,
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whereas I think that the customer is
 

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whereas I think that the customer is
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equally it's the other side of the same
 

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equally it's the other side of the same
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coin, and I think you can infer a lot
 

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coin, and I think you can infer a lot
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about the products that you're choosing
 

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about the products that you're choosing
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to merchandise and sell and put on sale
 

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to merchandise and sell and put on sale
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and all these other things by the
 

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and all these other things by the
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customers who buy them, but if they're
 

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customers who buy them, but if they're
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if the only thing you know about the
 

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if the only thing you know about the
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customers who buy them is that they
 

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customers who buy them is that they
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bought them and maybe their email
 

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bought them and maybe their email
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address, there's not much you can do
 

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address, there's not much you can do
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with that. Whereas if you've got a
 

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with that. Whereas if you've got a
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richer profile, you can start inferring
 

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richer profile, you can start inferring
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a lot of insight onto your products,
 

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a lot of insight onto your products,
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just like you can infer a lot of insight
 

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just like you can infer a lot of insight
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onto your customers based on the
 

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onto your customers based on the
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products,
 

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not just the ones they buy. And I mean,
 

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not just the ones they buy. And I mean,
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if you're a vertically integrated brand
 

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if you're a vertically integrated brand
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where I you know, the the logo on the
 

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where I you know, the the logo on the
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label's the same as on the door on the
 

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label's the same as on the door on the
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website, and most people buy for
 

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website, and most people buy for
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themselves, then you know, it's a pretty
 

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themselves, then you know, it's a pretty
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simple thing, and some off-the-shelf
 

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simple thing, and some off-the-shelf
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apps will get you a fair way, but if
 

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apps will get you a fair way, but if
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you're the sort of brand where
 

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you're the sort of brand where
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a lot of people are buying for gifts for
 

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a lot of people are buying for gifts for
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other people,
 

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other people,
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you can't start making assumptions about
 

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you can't start making assumptions about
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well, the size of things that I buy are
 

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well, the size of things that I buy are
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for me. So, you have Danny's buying size
 

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for me. So, you have Danny's buying size
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one rings, that's probably not going to
 

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one rings, that's probably not going to
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fit his fat fingers, but it might fit
 

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fit his fat fingers, but it might fit
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the the fingers of his wife. So, like
 

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the the fingers of his wife. So, like
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who is that and what role does she play
 

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who is that and what role does she play
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in your purchasing journey and how can
 

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in your purchasing journey and how can
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we help you buy for her not only this
 

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we help you buy for her not only this
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time, but you know, when is your
 

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time, but you know, when is your
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anniversary? When is her birthday? How
 

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anniversary? When is her birthday? How
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can we help you shop? I think when you
 

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can we help you shop? I think when you
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talk about the promotions just before,
 

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talk about the promotions just before,
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everyone thinks that we need all this
 

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everyone thinks that we need all this
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data so that when we need to drive
 

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data so that when we need to drive
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sales, we can use that data to drive
 

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sales, we can use that data to drive
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behavior.
 

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And sort of the way I visualize that is
 

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And sort of the way I visualize that is
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people like brands are going, "Here's
 

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people like brands are going, "Here's
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all these customers out in the world
 

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all these customers out in the world
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that we've we've we know them fair and
 

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that we've we've we know them fair and
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square, but they're not shopping with us
 

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square, but they're not shopping with us
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today. So, we need to
 

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today. So, we need to
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wake them up and push them put their
 

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wake them up and push them put their
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hands in in their back and push them
 

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hands in in their back and push them
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into store. Yet, there's a whole, you
 

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into store. Yet, there's a whole, you
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know, 50, 100, 1,000 customers actually
 

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know, 50, 100, 1,000 customers actually
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in our store today and we don't
 

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in our store today and we don't
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care We don't care about them. We don't
 

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care We don't care about them. We don't
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give them any tools to make them a
 

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give them any tools to make them a
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better shopper. We don't plant anything
 

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better shopper. We don't plant anything
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into their into their profiles for next
 

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into their into their profiles for next
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time. It's like, "Oh, the job's done
 

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time. It's like, "Oh, the job's done
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there." I said, "Well, that's that's
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that's where the job starts. That's the
 

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that's where the job starts. That's the
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start of the next transaction." And the
 

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start of the next transaction." And the
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more time you spend on that cohort, you
 

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more time you spend on that cohort, you
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might find
 

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we don't need to drive I don't need to
 

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we don't need to drive I don't need to
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send offers and discounts. I mean,
 

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send offers and discounts. I mean,
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bribes
 

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or loyalty mechanics or, you know, the
 

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or loyalty mechanics or, you know, the
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the discounts and the offers, that's
 

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the discounts and the offers, that's
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kind of they're the easy mechanics to
 

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kind of they're the easy mechanics to
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use and that's your last resort. What
 

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use and that's your last resort. What
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are all the shopping experience
 

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are all the shopping experience
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mechanics that are that make you go,
 

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mechanics that are that make you go,
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"You know what? If I have a choice to
 

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"You know what? If I have a choice to
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buy
 

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you know, t-shirts, I'm going to pick
 

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you know, t-shirts, I'm going to pick
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this brand because they know me and I
 

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this brand because they know me and I
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don't have to go to the changing room
 

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don't have to go to the changing room
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anymore and and they know my size and I
 

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anymore and and they know my size and I
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know what I like." That's the place I'm
 

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know what I like." That's the place I'm
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going to go back to, not because it's
 

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going to go back to, not because it's
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got the the biggest discount of the day.
 

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got the the biggest discount of the day.
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&gt;&gt; What's the moment a Shopify app realizes
 

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&gt;&gt; What's the moment a Shopify app realizes
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they can't keep doing support tickets
 

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they can't keep doing support tickets
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themselves?
 

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themselves?
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&gt;&gt; When an app realizes that they need the
 

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&gt;&gt; When an app realizes that they need the
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help, it's already a little bit too
 

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help, it's already a little bit too
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late. And all of a sudden, you start
 

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late. And all of a sudden, you start
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getting 15, 20, 30 queries a day. You
 

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getting 15, 20, 30 queries a day. You
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look at the inbox and it just keeps
 

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look at the inbox and it just keeps
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piling up. You sit down to build and
 

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piling up. You sit down to build and
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there's just no time. That's when most
 

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there's just no time. That's when most
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app developers realize that they're a
 

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app developers realize that they're a
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little bit in trouble.
 

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little bit in trouble.
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&gt;&gt; The Support [music] Heroes,
 

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&gt;&gt; The Support [music] Heroes,
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round-the-clock support for your Shopify
 

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round-the-clock support for your Shopify
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apps. Visit the supportheroes.com today.
 

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apps. Visit the supportheroes.com today.
[music]

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[music]
 

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[music]
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&gt;&gt; I'm just thinking back to like, yeah,
 

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&gt;&gt; I'm just thinking back to like, yeah,
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what the in-store experiences to to
 

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what the in-store experiences to to
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replace, almost like you go on to a
 

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replace, almost like you go on to a
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website, you've got the newsletter
 

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website, you've got the newsletter
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pop-up or the loyalty pop-up or whatever
 

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pop-up or the loyalty pop-up or whatever
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it is. When you when you go on to a
 

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it is. When you when you go on to a
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website, like what's the what's the
 

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website, like what's the what's the
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in-store equivalent of that where you
 

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in-store equivalent of that where you
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can and yeah, how how does that look?
 

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can and yeah, how how does that look?
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&gt;&gt; Yeah, I hate to call it in-store
 

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&gt;&gt; Yeah, I hate to call it in-store
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subscriber pop-up because I hate those
 

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subscriber pop-up because I hate those
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things so much, but um yeah, the fact is
 

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things so much, but um yeah, the fact is
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that they they do if they if they're
 

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that they they do if they if they're
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presented at the right time when that
 

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presented at the right time when that
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value can be shown to me. Uh so, we have
 

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value can be shown to me. Uh so, we have
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a thing called profile portal, which is
 

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a thing called profile portal, which is
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a an Omneo, one of our Omneo
 

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a an Omneo, one of our Omneo
experiences.<00:10:37.680><c> It's</c><00:10:37.880><c> a</c><00:10:37.960><c> localized</c><00:10:38.520><c> QR</c><00:10:38.840><c> code</c>

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experiences. It's a localized QR code
 

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experiences. It's a localized QR code
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for every store. When you scan that QR
 

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for every store. When you scan that QR
code,<00:10:41.640><c> it</c><00:10:41.720><c> goes,</c><00:10:42.320><c> "Hi</c><00:10:42.480><c> there,</c><00:10:42.720><c> what's</c><00:10:42.920><c> your</c>

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code, it goes, "Hi there, what's your
 

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code, it goes, "Hi there, what's your
email<00:10:43.280><c> address?"</c>

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email address?"
 

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email address?"
Um<00:10:44.440><c> you</c><00:10:44.520><c> pop</c><00:10:44.800><c> you</c><00:10:45.120><c> you</c><00:10:45.200><c> know,</c><00:10:45.360><c> auto-complete</c>

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Um you pop you you know, auto-complete
 

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Um you pop you you know, auto-complete
email<00:10:46.280><c> address</c><00:10:46.560><c> on</c><00:10:46.640><c> your</c><00:10:46.800><c> own</c><00:10:46.920><c> phone</c><00:10:47.240><c> because</c>

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email address on your own phone because
 

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email address on your own phone because
you're<00:10:47.600><c> on</c><00:10:47.680><c> your</c><00:10:47.800><c> own</c><00:10:47.920><c> phone.</c><00:10:48.600><c> Um</c><00:10:48.960><c> and</c><00:10:49.080><c> if</c><00:10:49.200><c> we</c>

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you're on your own phone. Um and if we
 

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you're on your own phone. Um and if we
know<00:10:49.480><c> you,</c><00:10:49.680><c> it</c><00:10:49.760><c> says,</c><00:10:49.960><c> "Welcome</c><00:10:50.240><c> back."</c><00:10:50.760><c> And</c>

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know you, it says, "Welcome back." And
 

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know you, it says, "Welcome back." And
you<00:10:50.960><c> can</c><00:10:51.080><c> pick</c><00:10:51.200><c> up</c><00:10:51.320><c> where</c><00:10:51.400><c> you</c><00:10:51.440><c> left</c><00:10:51.680><c> off.</c><00:10:52.320><c> And</c>

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you can pick up where you left off. And
 

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you can pick up where you left off. And
if<00:10:52.480><c> we</c><00:10:52.520><c> don't</c><00:10:52.720><c> know</c><00:10:52.880><c> you,</c><00:10:53.040><c> it</c><00:10:53.120><c> goes,</c><00:10:53.400><c> "Well,</c>

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if we don't know you, it goes, "Well,
 

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if we don't know you, it goes, "Well,
let's<00:10:53.680><c> get</c><00:10:53.880><c> to</c><00:10:53.960><c> know</c><00:10:54.120><c> you.</c><00:10:54.280><c> Here's</c><00:10:54.520><c> the</c><00:10:54.600><c> basic</c>

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let's get to know you. Here's the basic
 

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let's get to know you. Here's the basic
information<00:10:55.320><c> we</c><00:10:55.400><c> need</c><00:10:55.640><c> to</c><00:10:55.720><c> get</c><00:10:55.880><c> you</c><00:10:56.000><c> over</c><00:10:56.160><c> the</c>

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information we need to get you over the
 

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information we need to get you over the
line."<00:10:56.560><c> And</c><00:10:56.760><c> yes,</c><00:10:57.240><c> we</c><00:10:57.360><c> can</c><00:10:57.480><c> offer</c><00:10:57.720><c> you</c>

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line." And yes, we can offer you
 

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line." And yes, we can offer you
something<00:10:58.560><c> as</c><00:10:58.760><c> well,</c><00:10:59.000><c> but</c><00:10:59.640><c> I'd</c><00:10:59.800><c> like</c><00:10:59.960><c> to</c><00:11:00.040><c> offer</c>

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something as well, but I'd like to offer
 

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something as well, but I'd like to offer
you<00:11:00.320><c> a</c><00:11:00.400><c> set</c><00:11:00.560><c> of</c><00:11:00.640><c> utilities</c><00:11:01.200><c> that</c><00:11:01.320><c> make</c><00:11:01.520><c> the</c>

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you a set of utilities that make the
 

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you a set of utilities that make the
shopping<00:11:01.920><c> experience</c><00:11:02.320><c> better</c><00:11:02.560><c> today.</c><00:11:03.240><c> Um</c><00:11:03.480><c> and</c>

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shopping experience better today. Um and
 

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shopping experience better today. Um and
it's<00:11:03.720><c> different</c><00:11:04.120><c> to</c><00:11:04.800><c> just</c><00:11:05.040><c> sending</c><00:11:05.360><c> people</c><00:11:05.600><c> to</c>

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it's different to just sending people to
 

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it's different to just sending people to
the<00:11:05.800><c> website</c><00:11:06.280><c> because</c><00:11:06.480><c> the</c><00:11:06.560><c> website's</c><00:11:06.960><c> going</c>

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the website because the website's going
 

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the website because the website's going
to<00:11:07.160><c> try</c><00:11:07.480><c> website</c><00:11:08.000><c> you.</c><00:11:08.120><c> It's</c><00:11:08.240><c> going</c><00:11:08.360><c> to</c><00:11:08.440><c> try</c>

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to try website you. It's going to try
 

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to try website you. It's going to try
convert<00:11:09.400><c> you</c><00:11:09.520><c> cuz</c><00:11:09.640><c> that's</c><00:11:09.839><c> what</c><00:11:10.080><c> it's</c>

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convert you cuz that's what it's
 

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convert you cuz that's what it's
optimized<00:11:10.920><c> to</c><00:11:11.040><c> do.</c><00:11:11.839><c> And</c><00:11:12.000><c> it'll</c><00:11:12.120><c> probably</c><00:11:12.360><c> show</c>

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optimized to do. And it'll probably show
 

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optimized to do. And it'll probably show
you<00:11:12.600><c> a</c><00:11:12.640><c> subscriber</c><00:11:13.040><c> pop-up.</c><00:11:13.760><c> Um</c><00:11:14.080><c> so,</c><00:11:14.280><c> the</c>

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you a subscriber pop-up. Um so, the
 

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you a subscriber pop-up. Um so, the
profile<00:11:14.720><c> portal's</c><00:11:15.280><c> job</c><00:11:15.520><c> is</c><00:11:15.640><c> to</c><00:11:15.720><c> say,</c><00:11:15.880><c> "Well,</c>

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profile portal's job is to say, "Well,
 

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profile portal's job is to say, "Well,
what<00:11:16.200><c> would</c><00:11:16.320><c> a</c><00:11:16.360><c> my</c><00:11:16.560><c> account</c><00:11:16.920><c> page</c><00:11:17.360><c> or</c><00:11:17.520><c> a</c>

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what would a my account page or a
 

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what would a my account page or a
loyalty<00:11:18.000><c> card</c><00:11:18.400><c> look</c><00:11:18.600><c> like</c><00:11:19.360><c> if</c><00:11:19.560><c> I</c><00:11:19.600><c> was</c><00:11:19.880><c> only</c>

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loyalty card look like if I was only
 

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loyalty card look like if I was only
using<00:11:20.440><c> it</c><00:11:20.520><c> in</c><00:11:20.640><c> store?"</c><00:11:21.160><c> And</c><00:11:21.360><c> and</c><00:11:21.520><c> that's</c><00:11:21.800><c> what</c>

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using it in store?" And and that's what
 

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using it in store?" And and that's what
it's<00:11:22.080><c> sort</c><00:11:22.240><c> of</c><00:11:22.560><c> designed</c><00:11:23.080><c> to</c><00:11:23.200><c> do.</c><00:11:23.960><c> Um</c><00:11:24.240><c> and</c>

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it's sort of designed to do. Um and
 

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it's sort of designed to do. Um and
then,<00:11:24.600><c> yeah,</c><00:11:24.839><c> scan</c><00:11:25.280><c> some</c><00:11:25.400><c> products</c><00:11:25.720><c> into</c><00:11:25.880><c> my</c>

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then, yeah, scan some products into my
 

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then, yeah, scan some products into my
own<00:11:26.160><c> wish</c><00:11:26.400><c> list.</c><00:11:27.080><c> And</c><00:11:27.200><c> also,</c><00:11:27.800><c> we</c><00:11:27.920><c> see</c><00:11:28.280><c> from</c><00:11:28.440><c> a</c>

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own wish list. And also, we see from a
 

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own wish list. And also, we see from a
data<00:11:28.800><c> and</c><00:11:28.920><c> data</c><00:11:29.120><c> privacy</c><00:11:29.560><c> point</c><00:11:29.800><c> of</c><00:11:29.839><c> view,</c>

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data and data privacy point of view,
 

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data and data privacy point of view,
which<00:11:30.120><c> is</c><00:11:30.200><c> a</c><00:11:30.240><c> pretty</c><00:11:30.400><c> big</c><00:11:30.520><c> topic</c><00:11:31.000><c> that</c><00:11:31.120><c> a</c><00:11:31.160><c> lot</c>

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which is a pretty big topic that a lot
 

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which is a pretty big topic that a lot
of<00:11:31.360><c> brands</c><00:11:31.680><c> are</c><00:11:31.760><c> starting</c><00:11:32.200><c> to</c><00:11:32.320><c> take</c><00:11:32.480><c> more</c>

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of brands are starting to take more
 

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of brands are starting to take more
seriously<00:11:33.200><c> here</c><00:11:33.400><c> Australia.</c><00:11:34.120><c> Other</c><00:11:34.320><c> markets</c>

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seriously here Australia. Other markets
 

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seriously here Australia. Other markets
obviously<00:11:34.920><c> take</c><00:11:35.080><c> it</c><00:11:35.200><c> seriously</c><00:11:35.680><c> straight</c><00:11:35.960><c> out</c>

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obviously take it seriously straight out
 

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obviously take it seriously straight out
of<00:11:36.080><c> the</c><00:11:36.160><c> gate.</c><00:11:36.960><c> Um</c>

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of the gate. Um
 

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of the gate. Um
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but the idea of me reading out my mobile
 

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but the idea of me reading out my mobile
number<00:11:40.480><c> and</c><00:11:40.600><c> email</c><00:11:40.800><c> address</c><00:11:41.160><c> out</c><00:11:41.400><c> loud</c><00:11:41.680><c> for</c>

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number and email address out loud for
 

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number and email address out loud for
you<00:11:41.960><c> to</c><00:11:42.080><c> try</c><00:11:42.280><c> to</c><00:11:42.400><c> type</c><00:11:42.640><c> down</c><00:11:43.120><c> over</c><00:11:43.320><c> the</c><00:11:43.440><c> counter</c>

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you to try to type down over the counter
 

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you to try to type down over the counter
is<00:11:43.920><c> probably</c><00:11:44.160><c> not</c><00:11:44.520><c> where</c><00:11:44.720><c> we're</c><00:11:44.840><c> going</c><00:11:44.960><c> to</c><00:11:45.040><c> end</c>

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is probably not where we're going to end
 

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is probably not where we're going to end
up<00:11:45.400><c> in</c><00:11:45.480><c> the</c><00:11:45.560><c> long</c><00:11:45.760><c> run.</c><00:11:46.480><c> So,</c><00:11:46.600><c> if</c><00:11:46.720><c> I</c><00:11:46.800><c> can</c><00:11:46.920><c> say</c><00:11:47.080><c> to</c>

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up in the long run. So, if I can say to
 

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up in the long run. So, if I can say to
you,<00:11:47.560><c> look,</c><00:11:47.720><c> scan</c><00:11:47.960><c> this</c><00:11:48.080><c> QR</c><00:11:48.360><c> code</c><00:11:48.680><c> and</c><00:11:48.920><c> just</c>

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you, look, scan this QR code and just
 

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you, look, scan this QR code and just
quickly<00:11:49.800><c> put</c><00:11:49.920><c> your</c><00:11:50.040><c> email</c><00:11:50.280><c> address</c><00:11:50.560><c> in</c><00:11:50.680><c> on</c>

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quickly put your email address in on
 

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quickly put your email address in on
your<00:11:51.040><c> phone</c><00:11:51.360><c> and</c><00:11:51.480><c> then</c><00:11:51.680><c> it's</c><00:11:51.800><c> going</c><00:11:51.920><c> to</c><00:11:51.960><c> pop</c><00:11:52.120><c> up</c>

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your phone and then it's going to pop up
 

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your phone and then it's going to pop up
on<00:11:52.360><c> my</c><00:11:52.560><c> screen</c><00:11:53.120><c> and</c><00:11:53.280><c> I</c><00:11:53.360><c> as</c><00:11:53.440><c> a</c><00:11:53.480><c> staff</c><00:11:53.720><c> member</c>

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on my screen and I as a staff member
 

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on my screen and I as a staff member
don't<00:11:54.080><c> even</c><00:11:54.240><c> really</c><00:11:54.440><c> need</c><00:11:54.600><c> to</c><00:11:54.720><c> see</c><00:11:54.920><c> your</c>

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don't even really need to see your
 

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don't even really need to see your
mobile<00:11:55.600><c> number</c><00:11:55.960><c> or</c><00:11:56.200><c> email</c><00:11:56.520><c> address.</c><00:11:56.800><c> I</c>

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mobile number or email address. I
 

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mobile number or email address. I
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probably shouldn't see it. So, now one
 

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probably shouldn't see it. So, now one
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click on your phone, now I can add this
 

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click on your phone, now I can add this
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sale to your account and we're good to
 

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sale to your account and we're good to
go.<00:12:03.320><c> So,</c><00:12:04.080><c> you</c><00:12:04.200><c> can't</c><00:12:04.960><c> Some</c><00:12:05.160><c> of</c><00:12:05.200><c> that</c><00:12:05.480><c> flow</c>

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go. So, you can't Some of that flow
 

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go. So, you can't Some of that flow
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might not work if you do it just at the
 

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might not work if you do it just at the
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point where they got some cash ready to
 

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point where they got some cash ready to
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give you. So, it's really important to
 

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give you. So, it's really important to
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go, well, let's get that QR code further
 

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go, well, let's get that QR code further
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back into the store experience. Let's
 

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back into the store experience. Let's
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put it on our sales team's badges so
 

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put it on our sales team's badges so
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that we can do it while we're on the
 

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that we can do it while we're on the
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floor and sort of sell that reason to be
 

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floor and sort of sell that reason to be
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known earlier at the start of the visit.
 

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known earlier at the start of the visit.
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So, there's a a lot of cultural change
 

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So, there's a a lot of cultural change
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um both on the shopper side and the
 

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um both on the shopper side and the
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staff side to sort of achieve that
 

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staff side to sort of achieve that
utopia,<00:12:28.440><c> but</c><00:12:28.640><c> we</c><00:12:28.720><c> think</c><00:12:28.880><c> it's</c><00:12:29.000><c> worth</c><00:12:29.240><c> it.</c>

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utopia, but we think it's worth it.
 

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utopia, but we think it's worth it.
&gt;&gt; Yeah,<00:12:30.320><c> absolutely.</c><00:12:30.840><c> You</c><00:12:30.920><c> see</c><00:12:31.080><c> like</c><00:12:31.280><c> I</c><00:12:31.360><c> think</c>

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&gt;&gt; Yeah, absolutely. You see like I think
 

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&gt;&gt; Yeah, absolutely. You see like I think
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of Uniqlo as an example where they've
 

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of Uniqlo as an example where they've
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kind of got some really interesting
 

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kind of got some really interesting
touch<00:12:35.520><c> points</c><00:12:35.880><c> there,</c><00:12:36.160><c> don't</c><00:12:36.480><c> they?</c><00:12:36.640><c> Like</c><00:12:37.000><c> you</c>

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touch points there, don't they? Like you
 

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touch points there, don't they? Like you
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go to the You go to the checkout there
 

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go to the You go to the checkout there
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and like even just like the physical
 

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and like even just like the physical
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change of like they don't even scan a
 

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change of like they don't even scan a
barcode<00:12:43.640><c> anymore.</c><00:12:43.960><c> You</c><00:12:44.080><c> put</c><00:12:44.240><c> all</c><00:12:44.320><c> the</c>

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barcode anymore. You put all the
 

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barcode anymore. You put all the
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products in like a sort of a bucket
 

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products in like a sort of a bucket
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thing and it it just picks up the chips
 

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thing and it it just picks up the chips
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on them all and then you scan your app
 

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on them all and then you scan your app
and<00:12:50.839><c> your</c><00:12:50.960><c> payment's</c><00:12:51.440><c> stored</c><00:12:51.800><c> on</c><00:12:51.920><c> there</c><00:12:52.320><c> and</c>

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and your payment's stored on there and
 

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and your payment's stored on there and
so<00:12:52.920><c> the</c><00:12:53.040><c> behavior's</c><00:12:53.520><c> definitely</c><00:12:54.000><c> changing</c>

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so the behavior's definitely changing
 

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so the behavior's definitely changing
and<00:12:55.880><c> yeah,</c><00:12:56.080><c> there's</c><00:12:56.320><c> just</c><00:12:56.560><c> so</c><00:12:56.760><c> much</c><00:12:57.000><c> great</c>

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and yeah, there's just so much great
 

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and yeah, there's just so much great
opportunity<00:12:57.920><c> to</c><00:12:58.080><c> try</c><00:12:58.400><c> new</c><00:12:58.680><c> things</c><00:12:59.120><c> and</c><00:12:59.400><c> and</c>

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opportunity to try new things and and
 

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opportunity to try new things and and
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explore more different stuff with the
 

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explore more different stuff with the
way<00:13:01.240><c> you</c><00:13:01.600><c> you</c><00:13:02.520><c> get</c><00:13:02.680><c> that</c><00:13:02.733><c> [snorts]</c><00:13:02.920><c> data,</c><00:13:03.360><c> but</c>

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way you you get that [snorts] data, but
 

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way you you get that [snorts] data, but
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also yeah, turn it back into something
 

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also yeah, turn it back into something
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that makes that customer experience
 

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that makes that customer experience
better.

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better.
 

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better.
&gt;&gt; I<00:13:08.480><c> think</c><00:13:08.640><c> if</c><00:13:08.720><c> you</c><00:13:08.800><c> were</c><00:13:08.880><c> to</c><00:13:08.960><c> ask</c><00:13:09.200><c> a</c><00:13:09.240><c> question</c><00:13:09.640><c> to</c>

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&gt;&gt; I think if you were to ask a question to
 

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&gt;&gt; I think if you were to ask a question to
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yourself as a brand, it's like, well,
 

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yourself as a brand, it's like, well,
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what I mean, we there's this default
 

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what I mean, we there's this default
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assumption that we we cannot know who
 

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assumption that we we cannot know who
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they are until they're ready to buy
 

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they are until they're ready to buy
something.<00:13:17.920><c> That's</c><00:13:18.200><c> just</c><00:13:18.440><c> the</c><00:13:18.560><c> rules.</c><00:13:19.440><c> Like</c>

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something. That's just the rules. Like
 

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something. That's just the rules. Like
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we we don't ask who they are and we
 

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we we don't ask who they are and we
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cannot know. Shop advice changing that.
 

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cannot know. Shop advice changing that.
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Like they're really leaning into the
 

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Like they're really leaning into the
whole<00:13:24.960><c> login</c><00:13:25.280><c> with</c><00:13:25.400><c> Shop,</c><00:13:25.680><c> not</c><00:13:25.880><c> just</c><00:13:26.040><c> check</c>

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whole login with Shop, not just check
 

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whole login with Shop, not just check
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out with Shop. They've got bit right,
 

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out with Shop. They've got bit right,
which<00:13:27.960><c> is</c><00:13:28.040><c> just</c><00:13:28.200><c> amazing.</c><00:13:29.160><c> But</c><00:13:29.320><c> now</c><00:13:29.480><c> they're</c>

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which is just amazing. But now they're
 

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which is just amazing. But now they're
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doing login with Shop. So, the whole
 

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doing login with Shop. So, the whole
idea<00:13:31.440><c> is</c><00:13:32.000><c> when</c><00:13:32.160><c> you're</c><00:13:32.240><c> on</c><00:13:32.320><c> this</c><00:13:32.480><c> site,</c><00:13:32.760><c> tell</c>

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idea is when you're on this site, tell
 

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idea is when you're on this site, tell
us<00:13:33.000><c> who</c><00:13:33.120><c> you</c><00:13:33.280><c> are.</c><00:13:33.480><c> Let's</c><00:13:33.880><c> Let's</c><00:13:34.560><c> Ah,</c><00:13:34.840><c> welcome</c>

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us who you are. Let's Let's Ah, welcome
 

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us who you are. Let's Let's Ah, welcome
back,<00:13:35.680><c> Martin.</c><00:13:35.960><c> Let's</c><00:13:36.160><c> Let's</c><00:13:36.360><c> pick</c><00:13:36.560><c> up</c><00:13:36.720><c> where</c>

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back, Martin. Let's Let's pick up where
 

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back, Martin. Let's Let's pick up where
you<00:13:36.960><c> left</c><00:13:37.240><c> off.</c><00:13:37.440><c> And</c><00:13:37.600><c> brands</c><00:13:38.000><c> that</c><00:13:38.120><c> are</c>

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you left off. And brands that are
 

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you left off. And brands that are
building

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building
 

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building
pick<00:13:39.480><c> up</c><00:13:39.600><c> where</c><00:13:39.680><c> you</c><00:13:39.760><c> left</c><00:13:39.960><c> off</c><00:13:40.120><c> experiences</c>

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pick up where you left off experiences
 

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pick up where you left off experiences
into<00:13:41.080><c> their</c><00:13:41.680><c> websites.</c><00:13:42.720><c> So,</c><00:13:43.400><c> now</c><00:13:43.600><c> we</c><00:13:43.720><c> know</c>

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into their websites. So, now we know
 

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into their websites. So, now we know
it's<00:13:44.080><c> Martin,</c><00:13:44.520><c> let's</c><00:13:44.760><c> change</c><00:13:45.120><c> the</c><00:13:45.200><c> website</c><00:13:45.600><c> to</c>

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it's Martin, let's change the website to
 

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it's Martin, let's change the website to
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be a little bit more Martin specific.
 

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be a little bit more Martin specific.
Martin<00:13:48.000><c> Let's</c><00:13:48.120><c> narrow</c><00:13:48.360><c> it</c><00:13:48.480><c> all</c><00:13:48.680><c> the</c><00:13:48.760><c> way</c><00:13:48.960><c> down.</c>

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Martin Let's narrow it all the way down.
 

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Martin Let's narrow it all the way down.
I<00:13:49.360><c> think</c><00:13:49.520><c> sometimes</c><00:13:49.920><c> you</c><00:13:50.000><c> can</c><00:13:50.080><c> go</c><00:13:50.240><c> too</c><00:13:50.520><c> far.</c><00:13:50.800><c> We</c>

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I think sometimes you can go too far. We
 

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I think sometimes you can go too far. We
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still We don't know what you might like
 

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still We don't know what you might like
to<00:13:52.520><c> discover</c><00:13:52.920><c> or</c><00:13:53.040><c> if</c><00:13:53.120><c> you're</c><00:13:53.240><c> buying</c><00:13:53.480><c> for</c>

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to discover or if you're buying for
 

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to discover or if you're buying for
someone<00:13:53.880><c> else.</c>

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someone else.
 

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someone else.
But<00:13:55.560><c> this</c><00:13:55.720><c> website</c>

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But this website
 

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But this website
was<00:13:57.080><c> 100%</c><00:13:57.720><c> brand</c><00:13:58.040><c> and</c><00:13:58.120><c> 0%</c><00:13:58.680><c> me.</c><00:13:59.400><c> So,</c><00:13:59.520><c> imagine</c><00:13:59.840><c> if</c>

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was 100% brand and 0% me. So, imagine if
 

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was 100% brand and 0% me. So, imagine if
I<00:14:00.040><c> logged</c><00:14:00.320><c> in</c><00:14:00.400><c> and</c><00:14:00.480><c> it</c><00:14:00.520><c> went</c><00:14:00.720><c> to</c><00:14:00.800><c> sort</c><00:14:00.960><c> of</c><00:14:01.040><c> 80%</c>

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I logged in and it went to sort of 80%
 

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I logged in and it went to sort of 80%
brand,<00:14:01.840><c> 20%</c><00:14:02.440><c> me.</c><00:14:03.000><c> And</c><00:14:03.120><c> what</c><00:14:03.240><c> would</c><00:14:03.320><c> the</c><00:14:03.400><c> home</c>

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brand, 20% me. And what would the home
 

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brand, 20% me. And what would the home
page<00:14:03.920><c> look</c><00:14:04.120><c> like</c><00:14:04.760><c> if</c><00:14:04.920><c> it</c><00:14:05.000><c> was</c><00:14:05.120><c> more</c><00:14:05.280><c> of</c><00:14:05.400><c> a</c><00:14:05.960><c> let's</c>

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page look like if it was more of a let's
 

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page look like if it was more of a let's
pick<00:14:06.280><c> up</c><00:14:06.400><c> where</c><00:14:06.480><c> you</c><00:14:06.560><c> left</c><00:14:06.800><c> off,</c><00:14:06.920><c> Martin,</c><00:14:07.280><c> home</c>

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pick up where you left off, Martin, home
 

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pick up where you left off, Martin, home
page<00:14:07.800><c> as</c><00:14:07.880><c> opposed</c><00:14:08.240><c> to</c><00:14:08.400><c> this</c><00:14:08.600><c> is</c><00:14:08.760><c> what</c><00:14:09.120><c> we</c><00:14:09.280><c> need</c>

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page as opposed to this is what we need
 

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page as opposed to this is what we need
to<00:14:09.600><c> sell</c><00:14:09.840><c> this</c><00:14:10.080><c> week,</c><00:14:10.400><c> Martin.</c><00:14:11.000><c> I</c><00:14:11.120><c> I</c><00:14:11.160><c> hope</c><00:14:11.400><c> you</c>

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to sell this week, Martin. I I hope you
 

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to sell this week, Martin. I I hope you
can<00:14:11.600><c> help</c><00:14:11.840><c> us</c><00:14:12.000><c> because</c><00:14:12.240><c> we</c><00:14:12.360><c> need</c><00:14:12.520><c> to</c><00:14:12.600><c> sell</c><00:14:12.840><c> it.</c>

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can help us because we need to sell it.
 

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can help us because we need to sell it.
Don't<00:14:13.640><c> really</c><00:14:13.800><c> care</c><00:14:14.040><c> who</c><00:14:14.160><c> you</c><00:14:14.360><c> are</c><00:14:14.440><c> and</c><00:14:14.560><c> what</c>

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Don't really care who you are and what
 

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Don't really care who you are and what
you<00:14:14.840><c> need.</c><00:14:15.120><c> This</c><00:14:15.280><c> is</c><00:14:15.400><c> the</c><00:14:15.480><c> stuff</c><00:14:15.720><c> I've</c><00:14:15.840><c> got</c><00:14:15.960><c> to</c>

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you need. This is the stuff I've got to
 

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you need. This is the stuff I've got to
sell.<00:14:16.760><c> So,</c><00:14:17.560><c> I</c><00:14:17.680><c> just</c><00:14:17.920><c> balancing</c><00:14:18.360><c> that</c><00:14:18.560><c> out</c><00:14:18.680><c> a</c>

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sell. So, I just balancing that out a
 

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sell. So, I just balancing that out a
little<00:14:18.920><c> bit</c><00:14:19.120><c> would</c><00:14:19.360><c> sort</c><00:14:19.520><c> of</c><00:14:19.760><c> radically</c>

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little bit would sort of radically
 

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little bit would sort of radically
change<00:14:20.560><c> how</c><00:14:20.640><c> you</c><00:14:20.760><c> think</c><00:14:21.000><c> about</c><00:14:21.240><c> the</c>

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change how you think about the
 

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change how you think about the
experience.<00:14:21.640><c> And</c><00:14:21.760><c> same</c><00:14:21.920><c> for</c><00:14:22.040><c> stores.</c><00:14:22.400><c> What</c>

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experience. And same for stores. What
 

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experience. And same for stores. What
would<00:14:22.720><c> the</c><00:14:22.800><c> store</c><00:14:23.040><c> experience</c><00:14:23.440><c> be</c><00:14:24.280><c> if</c><00:14:24.520><c> we</c>

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would the store experience be if we
 

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would the store experience be if we
could<00:14:25.080><c> know</c><00:14:25.360><c> who</c><00:14:25.520><c> you</c><00:14:25.680><c> were</c><00:14:25.880><c> when</c><00:14:26.040><c> you</c><00:14:26.120><c> walked</c>

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could know who you were when you walked
 

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could know who you were when you walked
in?<00:14:26.680><c> What</c><00:14:26.800><c> would</c><00:14:26.880><c> that</c><00:14:27.160><c> look</c><00:14:27.400><c> like?</c><00:14:27.640><c> What</c>

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in? What would that look like? What
 

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in? What would that look like? What
would<00:14:27.840><c> that</c><00:14:28.000><c> script</c><00:14:28.440><c> change</c><00:14:28.880><c> to</c><00:14:29.040><c> if</c><00:14:29.160><c> we</c><00:14:29.240><c> could</c>

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would that script change to if we could
 

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would that script change to if we could
if<00:14:29.720><c> we</c><00:14:29.800><c> could</c><00:14:30.040><c> know</c><00:14:30.160><c> that?</c>

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if we could know that?
 

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if we could know that?
&gt;&gt; Yeah.<00:14:31.560><c> Yeah,</c><00:14:31.760><c> absolutely.</c><00:14:32.240><c> Like</c><00:14:32.480><c> it's</c><00:14:32.720><c> like</c>

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&gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Like it's like
 

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&gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Like it's like
it<00:14:33.200><c> buy</c><00:14:33.560><c> it</c><00:14:33.680><c> again</c><00:14:34.040><c> is</c><00:14:34.240><c> like</c><00:14:34.440><c> the</c><00:14:34.520><c> most</c><00:14:34.839><c> obvious</c>

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it buy it again is like the most obvious
 

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it buy it again is like the most obvious
one,<00:14:35.440><c> isn't</c><00:14:35.680><c> it?</c><00:14:35.760><c> Where</c><00:14:35.880><c> you</c><00:14:36.000><c> don't</c><00:14:36.240><c> need</c><00:14:36.400><c> the</c>

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one, isn't it? Where you don't need the
 

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one, isn't it? Where you don't need the
algorithm<00:14:37.080><c> to</c><00:14:37.200><c> surface</c><00:14:37.640><c> the</c><00:14:37.760><c> product</c><00:14:38.120><c> someone</c>

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algorithm to surface the product someone
 

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algorithm to surface the product someone
buys<00:14:38.880><c> every</c><00:14:39.080><c> 2</c><00:14:39.280><c> months</c><00:14:39.800><c> on</c><00:14:39.960><c> the</c><00:14:40.360><c> on</c><00:14:40.520><c> the</c><00:14:40.680><c> home</c>

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buys every 2 months on the on the home
 

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buys every 2 months on the on the home
page<00:14:41.280><c> to</c><00:14:41.440><c> you</c><00:14:41.520><c> if</c><00:14:41.640><c> they</c><00:14:41.800><c> buy</c><00:14:42.200><c> it</c><00:14:42.360><c> if</c><00:14:42.480><c> it's</c><00:14:42.640><c> a</c>

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page to you if they buy it if it's a
 

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page to you if they buy it if it's a
a<00:14:44.040><c> serum</c><00:14:44.520><c> that</c><00:14:44.680><c> they</c><00:14:44.800><c> purchase</c><00:14:45.960><c> on</c><00:14:46.120><c> a</c>

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a serum that they purchase on a
 

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a serum that they purchase on a
beauty<00:14:47.200><c> store</c><00:14:47.680><c> or</c><00:14:47.920><c> a</c><00:14:48.200><c> t-shirt</c><00:14:48.800><c> or</c><00:14:48.920><c> socks</c><00:14:49.320><c> that</c>

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beauty store or a t-shirt or socks that
 

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beauty store or a t-shirt or socks that
they<00:14:49.560><c> always</c><00:14:49.880><c> just</c><00:14:50.040><c> buy</c><00:14:50.280><c> in</c><00:14:50.360><c> the</c><00:14:50.480><c> same</c><00:14:50.760><c> way.</c>

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they always just buy in the same way.
 

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they always just buy in the same way.
Like<00:14:50.960><c> just</c><00:14:51.200><c> surfacing</c><00:14:51.760><c> that</c><00:14:51.960><c> stuff</c><00:14:52.360><c> and</c><00:14:52.480><c> then</c>

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Like just surfacing that stuff and then
 

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Like just surfacing that stuff and then
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stuff that's similar to it is not
 

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stuff that's similar to it is not
actually<00:14:55.200><c> There's</c><00:14:55.440><c> There's</c><00:14:55.680><c> no</c><00:14:56.560><c> Yeah,</c>

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actually There's There's no Yeah,
 

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actually There's There's no Yeah,
there's<00:14:56.960><c> no</c><00:14:57.120><c> rocket</c><00:14:57.440><c> science</c><00:14:57.760><c> behind</c><00:14:58.360><c> it,</c><00:14:58.480><c> is</c>

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there's no rocket science behind it, is
 

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there's no rocket science behind it, is
there?<00:14:58.920><c> It's</c><00:14:59.080><c> just</c><00:14:59.480><c> a</c>

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there? It's just a
 

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there? It's just a
&gt;&gt; But<00:15:00.640><c> I</c><00:15:00.720><c> think</c><00:15:00.920><c> the</c><00:15:00.960><c> other</c><00:15:01.080><c> thing,</c><00:15:01.240><c> too,</c><00:15:01.400><c> we</c>

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&gt;&gt; But I think the other thing, too, we
 

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&gt;&gt; But I think the other thing, too, we
talk<00:15:01.640><c> a</c><00:15:01.680><c> lot</c><00:15:01.839><c> about</c><00:15:02.000><c> recommendations</c><00:15:02.760><c> and</c><00:15:02.960><c> AI</c>

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talk a lot about recommendations and AI
 

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talk a lot about recommendations and AI
about<00:15:03.360><c> recommendations</c><00:15:04.040><c> and</c><00:15:04.120><c> all</c><00:15:04.200><c> this</c><00:15:04.360><c> great</c>

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about recommendations and all this great
 

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about recommendations and all this great
There's<00:15:05.120><c> you</c><00:15:05.240><c> know,</c><00:15:05.680><c> there's</c><00:15:05.920><c> any</c><00:15:06.120><c> number</c><00:15:06.520><c> of</c>

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There's you know, there's any number of
 

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There's you know, there's any number of
platforms<00:15:07.240><c> really</c><00:15:07.920><c> willing</c><00:15:08.160><c> to</c><00:15:08.240><c> take</c><00:15:08.440><c> your</c>

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platforms really willing to take your
 

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platforms really willing to take your
money<00:15:08.720><c> if</c><00:15:08.880><c> you</c><00:15:09.000><c> want</c><00:15:09.120><c> a</c><00:15:09.160><c> recommendations</c>

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money if you want a recommendations
 

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money if you want a recommendations
engine<00:15:10.080><c> out</c><00:15:10.240><c> there.</c><00:15:11.000><c> But</c><00:15:11.400><c> if</c><00:15:11.600><c> I</c><00:15:11.680><c> spend</c><00:15:11.920><c> time</c><00:15:12.120><c> in</c>

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engine out there. But if I spend time in
 

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engine out there. But if I spend time in
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a store, I mean, you think about it, for
 

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a store, I mean, you think about it, for
most<00:15:13.720><c> omni-channel</c><00:15:14.120><c> retailers,</c><00:15:14.640><c> their</c>

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most omni-channel retailers, their
 

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most omni-channel retailers, their
online<00:15:15.160><c> sales</c><00:15:15.480><c> is</c><00:15:15.560><c> 15</c><00:15:15.839><c> to</c><00:15:15.920><c> 20%</c><00:15:16.400><c> of</c><00:15:16.480><c> all</c><00:15:16.600><c> sales.</c>

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online sales is 15 to 20% of all sales.
 

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online sales is 15 to 20% of all sales.
So,<00:15:17.200><c> 80%</c><00:15:17.680><c> of</c><00:15:17.720><c> sales</c><00:15:18.000><c> coming</c><00:15:18.200><c> from</c><00:15:18.320><c> the</c><00:15:18.400><c> store</c>

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So, 80% of sales coming from the store
 

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So, 80% of sales coming from the store
experience.

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experience.
 

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experience.
Conversion<00:15:20.240><c> rate</c><00:15:20.400><c> in</c><00:15:20.480><c> store</c><00:15:20.680><c> is</c><00:15:20.800><c> 15</c><00:15:21.080><c> to</c><00:15:21.160><c> 20%.</c>

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Conversion rate in store is 15 to 20%.
 

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Conversion rate in store is 15 to 20%.
So,<00:15:21.920><c> there's</c><00:15:22.040><c> a</c><00:15:22.080><c> lot</c><00:15:22.160><c> of</c><00:15:22.200><c> people</c><00:15:22.440><c> that's</c><00:15:22.720><c> more</c>

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So, there's a lot of people that's more
 

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So, there's a lot of people that's more
intentional,<00:15:23.720><c> but</c><00:15:23.800><c> there's</c><00:15:23.880><c> still</c><00:15:24.040><c> a</c><00:15:24.080><c> lot</c><00:15:24.160><c> of</c>

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intentional, but there's still a lot of
 

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intentional, but there's still a lot of
people<00:15:24.400><c> just</c><00:15:24.560><c> spending</c><00:15:24.880><c> time</c><00:15:25.120><c> in</c><00:15:25.200><c> store</c><00:15:25.400><c> that</c>

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people just spending time in store that
 

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people just spending time in store that
aren't<00:15:25.680><c> shopping.</c>

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aren't shopping.
 

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aren't shopping.
&gt;&gt; Yeah.

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&gt;&gt; Yeah.
 

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&gt;&gt; Yeah.
&gt;&gt; Um

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&gt;&gt; Um
 

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&gt;&gt; Um
if<00:15:28.080><c> if</c><00:15:28.320><c> I</c><00:15:28.680><c> said</c><00:15:28.960><c> to</c><00:15:29.080><c> you</c><00:15:29.320><c> I</c><00:15:29.840><c> that</c><00:15:30.160><c> you</c><00:15:30.280><c> visit</c><00:15:30.520><c> one</c>

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if if I said to you I that you visit one
 

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if if I said to you I that you visit one
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of our stores as part of that
 

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of our stores as part of that
experience,<00:15:32.480><c> we</c><00:15:32.600><c> can</c><00:15:32.800><c> very</c><00:15:33.120><c> easily</c><00:15:33.720><c> scan</c><00:15:34.200><c> the</c>

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experience, we can very easily scan the
 

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experience, we can very easily scan the
products<00:15:34.640><c> that</c><00:15:34.760><c> you</c><00:15:34.880><c> didn't</c><00:15:35.240><c> buy</c><00:15:35.440><c> today,</c><00:15:35.840><c> but</c>

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products that you didn't buy today, but
 

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products that you didn't buy today, but
we<00:15:36.560><c> that</c><00:15:36.720><c> you</c><00:15:36.920><c> told</c><00:15:37.280><c> us</c><00:15:37.480><c> you</c><00:15:37.600><c> were</c><00:15:37.680><c> interested</c>

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we that you told us you were interested
 

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we that you told us you were interested
in<00:15:38.240><c> as</c><00:15:38.400><c> a</c><00:15:38.440><c> human</c><00:15:38.800><c> to</c><00:15:38.960><c> a</c><00:15:39.040><c> human</c><00:15:39.560><c> this</c><00:15:39.720><c> in</c><00:15:39.960><c> real</c>

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in as a human to a human this in real
 

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in as a human to a human this in real
life<00:15:40.400><c> experience.</c>

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life experience.
 

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life experience.
I<00:15:41.800><c> save</c><00:15:42.120><c> that</c><00:15:42.280><c> to</c><00:15:42.360><c> your</c><00:15:42.480><c> profile</c><00:15:43.320><c> as</c><00:15:43.560><c> a</c><00:15:43.880><c> and</c>

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I save that to your profile as a and
 

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I save that to your profile as a and
then<00:15:44.120><c> when</c><00:15:44.240><c> you</c><00:15:44.320><c> left</c><00:15:44.560><c> the</c><00:15:44.640><c> door</c><00:15:45.040><c> left</c><00:15:45.280><c> the</c>

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then when you left the door left the
 

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then when you left the door left the
store,<00:15:45.840><c> I</c><00:15:45.960><c> as</c><00:15:46.080><c> a</c><00:15:46.120><c> staff</c><00:15:46.320><c> member</c><00:15:46.520><c> went,</c><00:15:46.680><c> "You</c>

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store, I as a staff member went, "You
 

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store, I as a staff member went, "You
know<00:15:46.880><c> what?</c><00:15:47.480><c> I</c><00:15:47.520><c> reckon</c><00:15:47.720><c> you'd</c><00:15:47.840><c> also</c><00:15:48.040><c> like</c>

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know what? I reckon you'd also like
 

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know what? I reckon you'd also like
these<00:15:48.440><c> things</c><00:15:48.600><c> now</c><00:15:48.720><c> I</c><00:15:48.800><c> think</c><00:15:49.000><c> about</c><00:15:49.280><c> it."</c><00:15:49.680><c> Um</c>

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these things now I think about it." Um
 

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these things now I think about it." Um
I'm<00:15:50.000><c> going</c><00:15:50.120><c> to</c><00:15:50.200><c> attach</c><00:15:50.520><c> these</c><00:15:50.720><c> other</c><00:15:50.880><c> things</c>

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I'm going to attach these other things
 

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I'm going to attach these other things
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to him and send a little message. Now,
 

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to him and send a little message. Now,
yes<00:15:53.160><c> that</c><00:15:53.320><c> could</c><00:15:53.440><c> go</c><00:15:53.600><c> as</c><00:15:53.720><c> an</c><00:15:53.800><c> email,</c><00:15:54.120><c> but</c><00:15:54.280><c> I</c>

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yes that could go as an email, but I
 

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yes that could go as an email, but I
don't<00:15:54.480><c> open</c><00:15:54.680><c> my</c><00:15:54.800><c> emails</c><00:15:55.160><c> from</c><00:15:55.280><c> brands.</c><00:15:55.960><c> So,</c><00:15:56.120><c> I</c>

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don't open my emails from brands. So, I
 

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don't open my emails from brands. So, I
go<00:15:56.360><c> back</c><00:15:56.560><c> to</c><00:15:56.640><c> the</c><00:15:56.720><c> website</c><00:15:57.400><c> shop</c><00:15:57.720><c> log</c><00:15:57.920><c> in</c><00:15:58.000><c> the</c>

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go back to the website shop log in the
 

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go back to the website shop log in the
shop<00:15:58.400><c> and</c><00:15:58.520><c> I'm</c><00:15:58.640><c> back</c><00:15:58.880><c> in.</c><00:15:59.240><c> Welcome</c><00:15:59.520><c> back,</c>

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shop and I'm back in. Welcome back,
 

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shop and I'm back in. Welcome back,
Danny.<00:16:00.480><c> And</c><00:16:00.600><c> it's</c><00:16:00.720><c> gone,</c><00:16:00.920><c> "Here's</c><00:16:01.080><c> a</c><00:16:01.120><c> little</c>

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Danny. And it's gone, "Here's a little
 

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Danny. And it's gone, "Here's a little
message<00:16:01.680><c> from</c><00:16:02.400><c> um</c>

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message from um
 

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message from um
Martin<00:16:03.480><c> that</c><00:16:03.600><c> served</c><00:16:03.880><c> you</c><00:16:04.000><c> last</c><00:16:04.280><c> week.</c><00:16:04.560><c> Here's</c>

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Martin that served you last week. Here's
 

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Martin that served you last week. Here's
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some products that he also thought you
 

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some products that he also thought you
might<00:16:06.320><c> like."</c><00:16:06.640><c> So,</c><00:16:06.800><c> yes</c><00:16:07.080><c> here's</c><00:16:07.320><c> the</c><00:16:07.440><c> buy</c>

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might like." So, yes here's the buy
 

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might like." So, yes here's the buy
again<00:16:08.000><c> the</c><00:16:08.080><c> shirt</c><00:16:08.320><c> that</c><00:16:08.480><c> I</c><00:16:08.520><c> bought</c><00:16:08.800><c> off</c><00:16:09.080><c> Martin</c>

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again the shirt that I bought off Martin
 

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again the shirt that I bought off Martin
2<00:16:09.760><c> weeks</c><00:16:10.000><c> ago.</c><00:16:10.560><c> Yeah.</c><00:16:10.640><c> It's</c><00:16:10.720><c> buy</c><00:16:10.880><c> it</c><00:16:10.960><c> again,</c><00:16:11.280><c> no</c>

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2 weeks ago. Yeah. It's buy it again, no
 

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2 weeks ago. Yeah. It's buy it again, no
worries<00:16:11.720><c> in</c><00:16:11.800><c> another</c><00:16:12.040><c> color,</c><00:16:12.680><c> but</c><00:16:12.800><c> also</c>

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worries in another color, but also
 

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worries in another color, but also
here's<00:16:13.200><c> some</c><00:16:13.320><c> other</c><00:16:13.560><c> ideas</c><00:16:13.880><c> that</c><00:16:14.000><c> he</c>

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here's some other ideas that he
 

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here's some other ideas that he
personally<00:16:14.720><c> thought.</c><00:16:15.360><c> Now,</c>

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personally thought. Now,
 

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personally thought. Now,
an<00:16:16.320><c> AI</c><00:16:16.480><c> recommendation</c><00:16:17.200><c> probably</c><00:16:17.440><c> scales</c><00:16:17.840><c> a</c>

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an AI recommendation probably scales a
 

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an AI recommendation probably scales a
lot<00:16:18.040><c> better,</c><00:16:18.520><c> but</c><00:16:19.280><c> they're</c><00:16:19.400><c> a</c><00:16:19.440><c> diamond</c><00:16:19.800><c> dozen,</c>

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lot better, but they're a diamond dozen,
 

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lot better, but they're a diamond dozen,
but<00:16:20.280><c> to</c><00:16:20.400><c> know</c><00:16:20.560><c> that</c><00:16:20.760><c> someone's</c><00:16:21.160><c> been</c><00:16:21.320><c> time</c>

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but to know that someone's been time
 

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but to know that someone's been time
putting<00:16:21.880><c> those</c><00:16:22.080><c> three</c><00:16:22.280><c> items</c><00:16:22.600><c> in</c><00:16:22.680><c> a</c><00:16:22.720><c> little,</c>

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putting those three items in a little,
 

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putting those three items in a little,
you<00:16:23.480><c> know,</c><00:16:23.760><c> lookbook</c><00:16:24.160><c> for</c><00:16:24.360><c> me</c><00:16:24.520><c> or</c><00:16:24.680><c> something</c>

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you know, lookbook for me or something
 

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you know, lookbook for me or something
that<00:16:25.040><c> I</c><00:16:25.120><c> might</c><00:16:25.360><c> follow</c><00:16:25.600><c> up</c><00:16:25.760><c> with,</c>

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that I might follow up with,
 

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that I might follow up with,
I<00:16:26.800><c> just</c><00:16:27.080><c> have</c><00:16:27.240><c> a</c><00:16:27.320><c> feeling</c><00:16:27.760><c> that</c><00:16:27.880><c> that's</c>

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I just have a feeling that that's
 

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I just have a feeling that that's
probably<00:16:28.360><c> going</c><00:16:28.640><c> to</c><00:16:29.120><c> probably</c><00:16:29.400><c> resonate</c><00:16:29.800><c> with</c>

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probably going to probably resonate with
 

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probably going to probably resonate with
me<00:16:30.080><c> a</c><00:16:30.120><c> little</c><00:16:30.320><c> bit</c><00:16:30.520><c> more</c><00:16:31.040><c> and</c><00:16:31.200><c> that</c><00:16:31.360><c> home</c><00:16:31.640><c> page</c>

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me a little bit more and that home page
 

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me a little bit more and that home page
of<00:16:32.440><c> your</c><00:16:32.640><c> brand</c><00:16:33.280><c> for</c><00:16:33.560><c> me,</c>

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of your brand for me,
 

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of your brand for me,
you<00:16:34.560><c> know,</c><00:16:34.880><c> as</c><00:16:35.080><c> curated</c><00:16:35.600><c> by</c><00:16:35.720><c> Martin</c><00:16:36.080><c> that</c>

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you know, as curated by Martin that
 

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you know, as curated by Martin that
served<00:16:36.440><c> me</c><00:16:36.560><c> last</c><00:16:36.880><c> week</c><00:16:37.040><c> it's</c><00:16:37.160><c> going</c><00:16:37.280><c> to</c><00:16:37.360><c> feel</c><00:16:37.600><c> a</c>

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served me last week it's going to feel a
 

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served me last week it's going to feel a
lot<00:16:37.880><c> better.</c><00:16:38.320><c> I</c><00:16:38.360><c> mean,</c><00:16:38.480><c> it</c><00:16:38.520><c> depends</c><00:16:38.880><c> on</c><00:16:39.000><c> the</c>

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lot better. I mean, it depends on the
 

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lot better. I mean, it depends on the
price<00:16:39.480><c> point</c><00:16:39.720><c> of</c><00:16:39.760><c> the</c><00:16:39.839><c> brand,</c><00:16:40.200><c> how</c><00:16:40.360><c> long</c>

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price point of the brand, how long
 

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price point of the brand, how long
people<00:16:40.920><c> dwell.</c><00:16:41.800><c> You</c><00:16:41.880><c> know,</c><00:16:42.320><c> some</c><00:16:42.920><c> high</c><00:16:43.400><c> you</c>

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people dwell. You know, some high you
 

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people dwell. You know, some high you
know,<00:16:43.880><c> high</c><00:16:44.160><c> volume</c><00:16:45.080><c> high</c><00:16:45.680><c> sort</c><00:16:45.839><c> of</c><00:16:45.960><c> speed</c>

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know, high volume high sort of speed
 

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know, high volume high sort of speed
stores<00:16:46.720><c> can</c><00:16:46.839><c> probably</c><00:16:47.160><c> can't</c><00:16:47.400><c> get</c><00:16:47.520><c> away</c><00:16:47.760><c> with</c>

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stores can probably can't get away with
 

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stores can probably can't get away with
that<00:16:48.080><c> sort</c><00:16:48.200><c> of</c><00:16:48.280><c> level</c><00:16:48.520><c> of</c><00:16:48.600><c> service,</c><00:16:48.960><c> but</c><00:16:49.080><c> there</c>

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that sort of level of service, but there
 

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that sort of level of service, but there
are<00:16:49.200><c> plenty</c><00:16:49.480><c> of</c><00:16:49.520><c> brands</c><00:16:49.839><c> that</c><00:16:49.920><c> are</c><00:16:49.960><c> now</c><00:16:50.160><c> trying</c>

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are plenty of brands that are now trying
 

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are plenty of brands that are now trying
to<00:16:50.480><c> justify</c>

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to justify
 

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to justify
premium<00:16:52.400><c> store</c><00:16:52.680><c> experiences,</c><00:16:53.720><c> this</c><00:16:53.920><c> is</c><00:16:54.040><c> how</c>

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premium store experiences, this is how
 

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premium store experiences, this is how
you<00:16:54.320><c> do</c><00:16:54.480><c> that.</c>

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you do that.
 

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you do that.
&gt;&gt; Yeah.<00:16:55.680><c> Yeah,</c><00:16:55.880><c> absolutely.</c><00:16:56.920><c> And</c><00:16:57.200><c> yeah,</c><00:16:57.400><c> it</c>

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&gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And yeah, it
 

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&gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And yeah, it
gets<00:16:57.800><c> me</c><00:16:57.960><c> thinking</c><00:16:58.360><c> as</c><00:16:58.520><c> well</c><00:16:58.800><c> like</c><00:16:59.120><c> beyond</c><00:16:59.680><c> the</c>

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gets me thinking as well like beyond the
 

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gets me thinking as well like beyond the
um<00:17:00.720><c> like</c>

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um like
 

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um like
it's<00:17:01.800><c> not</c><00:17:02.000><c> that</c><00:17:02.240><c> hard</c><00:17:02.560><c> to</c><00:17:02.640><c> present</c><00:17:03.120><c> it</c><00:17:03.320><c> to</c><00:17:03.440><c> a</c>

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it's not that hard to present it to a
 

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it's not that hard to present it to a
customer<00:17:04.120><c> that</c><00:17:04.400><c> does</c><00:17:04.720><c> purchase</c><00:17:05.280><c> regularly.</c>

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customer that does purchase regularly.
 

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customer that does purchase regularly.
How<00:17:06.360><c> do</c><00:17:06.480><c> you</c><00:17:06.920><c> um</c><00:17:07.880><c> how</c><00:17:08.120><c> do</c><00:17:08.280><c> you</c><00:17:08.480><c> then</c><00:17:09.199><c> reflect</c>

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How do you um how do you then reflect
 

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How do you um how do you then reflect
that<00:17:09.920><c> across</c><00:17:10.400><c> I</c><00:17:10.520><c> guess</c><00:17:11.079><c> firstly</c><00:17:11.560><c> like</c><00:17:11.760><c> a</c>

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that across I guess firstly like a
 

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that across I guess firstly like a
customer<00:17:12.319><c> who</c><00:17:12.439><c> doesn't</c><00:17:12.880><c> purchase</c><00:17:13.360><c> that</c>

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customer who doesn't purchase that
 

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customer who doesn't purchase that
regularly?<00:17:14.000><c> Like</c><00:17:14.280><c> how</c><00:17:14.480><c> do</c><00:17:14.640><c> you</c><00:17:15.040><c> make</c><00:17:15.240><c> the</c><00:17:15.319><c> most</c>

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regularly? Like how do you make the most
 

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regularly? Like how do you make the most
out<00:17:15.800><c> of</c><00:17:15.880><c> the</c><00:17:15.959><c> data</c><00:17:16.319><c> of</c><00:17:16.400><c> a</c><00:17:16.439><c> customer</c><00:17:17.000><c> who's</c><00:17:17.400><c> just</c>

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out of the data of a customer who's just
 

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out of the data of a customer who's just
come<00:17:17.920><c> into</c><00:17:18.079><c> the</c><00:17:18.160><c> store</c><00:17:18.480><c> for</c><00:17:18.600><c> the</c><00:17:18.720><c> first</c><00:17:19.040><c> time.</c>

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come into the store for the first time.
 

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come into the store for the first time.
You<00:17:19.839><c> want</c><00:17:20.000><c> to</c><00:17:20.120><c> turn</c><00:17:20.480><c> them</c><00:17:20.760><c> you</c><00:17:20.880><c> want</c><00:17:21.000><c> to</c><00:17:21.040><c> move</c>

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You want to turn them you want to move
 

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You want to turn them you want to move
them<00:17:21.520><c> from</c><00:17:21.720><c> the</c><00:17:22.280><c> the</c><00:17:22.720><c> outer</c><00:17:23.040><c> rings</c><00:17:23.319><c> of</c><00:17:23.439><c> your</c>

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them from the the outer rings of your
 

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them from the the outer rings of your
atmosphere<00:17:24.120><c> right</c><00:17:24.400><c> into</c><00:17:24.640><c> the</c><00:17:24.760><c> core.</c><00:17:25.480><c> How</c><00:17:25.680><c> do</c>

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atmosphere right into the core. How do
 

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atmosphere right into the core. How do
you<00:17:26.480><c> Yeah,</c>

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you Yeah,
 

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you Yeah,
what<00:17:27.839><c> can</c><00:17:28.000><c> you</c><00:17:28.120><c> do</c><00:17:28.400><c> to</c><00:17:28.560><c> sort</c><00:17:28.760><c> of</c><00:17:29.120><c> Yeah,</c><00:17:29.360><c> use</c>

00:17:29.670 --> 00:17:29.680 align:start position:0%
what can you do to sort of Yeah, use
 

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what can you do to sort of Yeah, use
that<00:17:29.960><c> data</c><00:17:30.280><c> to</c><00:17:30.360><c> the</c><00:17:30.440><c> best?</c>

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that data to the best?
 

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that data to the best?
&gt;&gt; Yeah,<00:17:31.720><c> look</c><00:17:31.920><c> I</c><00:17:32.080><c> think</c><00:17:32.560><c> you</c><00:17:32.640><c> know</c><00:17:32.720><c> the</c><00:17:33.000><c> the</c><00:17:33.120><c> one</c>

00:17:33.350 --> 00:17:33.360 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Yeah, look I think you know the the one
 

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&gt;&gt; Yeah, look I think you know the the one
and<00:17:33.480><c> done</c><00:17:33.720><c> customer</c><00:17:34.360><c> is</c><00:17:35.120><c> like</c><00:17:35.560><c> the</c><00:17:35.680><c> number</c><00:17:36.120><c> of</c>

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and done customer is like the number of
 

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and done customer is like the number of
brands.<00:17:36.840><c> I</c><00:17:36.880><c> mean</c><00:17:37.000><c> they</c><00:17:37.080><c> often</c><00:17:37.400><c> focus</c><00:17:37.680><c> on</c><00:17:37.760><c> the</c>

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brands. I mean they often focus on the
 

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brands. I mean they often focus on the
return<00:17:38.160><c> customer</c><00:17:38.560><c> rate</c><00:17:38.840><c> and</c><00:17:38.960><c> they'll</c><00:17:39.120><c> see</c>

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return customer rate and they'll see
 

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return customer rate and they'll see
some<00:17:39.720><c> you</c><00:17:39.800><c> know</c><00:17:40.320><c> customers</c><00:17:40.800><c> who</c><00:17:40.920><c> do</c><00:17:41.080><c> return</c>

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some you know customers who do return
 

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some you know customers who do return
return<00:17:41.960><c> often</c><00:17:42.680><c> that</c><00:17:42.880><c> 80/20</c><00:17:43.320><c> rule,</c><00:17:43.560><c> but</c><00:17:43.720><c> they</c>

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return often that 80/20 rule, but they
 

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return often that 80/20 rule, but they
just<00:17:44.280><c> the</c><00:17:44.400><c> sheer</c><00:17:44.840><c> number</c><00:17:45.160><c> of</c><00:17:45.240><c> people</c><00:17:45.560><c> that</c>

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just the sheer number of people that
 

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just the sheer number of people that
only<00:17:46.000><c> ever</c><00:17:46.160><c> shop</c><00:17:46.400><c> once</c><00:17:47.360><c> is</c><00:17:48.160><c> mind-boggling</c><00:17:48.960><c> for</c>

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only ever shop once is mind-boggling for
 

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only ever shop once is mind-boggling for
a<00:17:49.160><c> lot</c><00:17:49.360><c> of</c><00:17:49.440><c> brands.</c><00:17:50.240><c> Um</c>

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a lot of brands. Um
 

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a lot of brands. Um
and<00:17:51.000><c> it's</c><00:17:51.120><c> because</c><00:17:51.560><c> generally</c><00:17:52.000><c> the</c><00:17:52.200><c> better</c>

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and it's because generally the better
 

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and it's because generally the better
their<00:17:54.080><c> the</c><00:17:54.200><c> paid</c><00:17:54.560><c> advertising</c><00:17:55.160><c> is</c><00:17:55.840><c> they're</c>

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their the paid advertising is they're
 

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their the paid advertising is they're
sort<00:17:56.200><c> of</c><00:17:56.320><c> just</c><00:17:56.600><c> in</c><00:17:56.720><c> the</c><00:17:56.800><c> moment</c><00:17:57.200><c> Instagram</c><00:17:57.760><c> ad</c>

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sort of just in the moment Instagram ad
 

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sort of just in the moment Instagram ad
that<00:17:58.120><c> just</c><00:17:58.360><c> I</c><00:17:58.800><c> Whatever</c><00:17:59.080><c> that</c><00:17:59.240><c> brand</c><00:17:59.560><c> is</c><00:17:59.680><c> I</c>

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that just I Whatever that brand is I
 

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that just I Whatever that brand is I
don't<00:17:59.880><c> care</c><00:18:00.120><c> about</c><00:18:00.240><c> that</c><00:18:00.400><c> product</c><00:18:00.760><c> I'll</c><00:18:00.920><c> have</c>

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don't care about that product I'll have
 

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don't care about that product I'll have
that<00:18:01.280><c> now</c><00:18:01.520><c> and</c><00:18:01.600><c> the</c><00:18:01.680><c> algorithm</c><00:18:02.160><c> served</c><00:18:02.520><c> it</c><00:18:02.600><c> up</c>

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that now and the algorithm served it up
 

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that now and the algorithm served it up
exactly<00:18:03.400><c> at</c><00:18:03.480><c> the</c><00:18:03.560><c> moment</c><00:18:03.800><c> that</c><00:18:03.920><c> I'm</c><00:18:04.000><c> in</c><00:18:04.080><c> the</c>

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exactly at the moment that I'm in the
 

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exactly at the moment that I'm in the
market<00:18:04.600><c> for</c><00:18:04.720><c> that</c><00:18:04.880><c> particular</c><00:18:05.400><c> thing.</c><00:18:06.160><c> Um</c><00:18:06.800><c> but</c>

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market for that particular thing. Um but
 

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market for that particular thing. Um but
I'm<00:18:07.000><c> not</c><00:18:07.120><c> a</c><00:18:07.160><c> brand</c><00:18:07.640><c> member</c><00:18:08.080><c> and</c><00:18:08.160><c> you'll</c>

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I'm not a brand member and you'll
 

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I'm not a brand member and you'll
accidentally<00:18:08.760><c> get</c><00:18:08.880><c> my</c><00:18:09.040><c> email</c><00:18:09.360><c> address</c><00:18:09.680><c> I'll</c>

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accidentally get my email address I'll
 

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accidentally get my email address I'll
accidentally<00:18:10.640><c> you</c><00:18:10.720><c> know</c><00:18:10.880><c> opt</c><00:18:11.200><c> in</c><00:18:11.360><c> and</c><00:18:11.480><c> you'll</c>

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accidentally you know opt in and you'll
 

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accidentally you know opt in and you'll
you'll<00:18:12.120><c> send</c><00:18:12.440><c> me</c><00:18:12.600><c> a</c><00:18:12.680><c> thousand</c><00:18:13.280><c> emails,</c><00:18:13.840><c> but</c>

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you'll send me a thousand emails, but
 

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you'll send me a thousand emails, but
none<00:18:14.200><c> of</c><00:18:14.320><c> it's</c><00:18:14.440><c> going</c><00:18:14.560><c> to</c><00:18:15.040><c> cut</c><00:18:15.440><c> through</c><00:18:15.720><c> cuz</c><00:18:15.800><c> I</c>

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none of it's going to cut through cuz I
 

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none of it's going to cut through cuz I
won't<00:18:16.040><c> even</c><00:18:16.240><c> open</c><00:18:16.480><c> them.</c>

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won't even open them.
 

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won't even open them.
So<00:18:17.480><c> our</c><00:18:18.280><c> our</c>

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So our our
 

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So our our
sort<00:18:19.360><c> of</c><00:18:19.440><c> way</c><00:18:19.600><c> of</c><00:18:19.680><c> thinking</c><00:18:20.040><c> is</c><00:18:20.240><c> in</c><00:18:20.440><c> store</c><00:18:20.880><c> or</c>

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sort of way of thinking is in store or
 

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sort of way of thinking is in store or
online<00:18:22.120><c> once</c><00:18:22.440><c> I</c><00:18:22.480><c> make</c><00:18:22.680><c> that</c><00:18:22.880><c> first</c><00:18:23.200><c> purchase</c>

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online once I make that first purchase
 

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online once I make that first purchase
what's<00:18:24.480><c> in</c><00:18:24.920><c> the</c><00:18:25.040><c> packaging?</c><00:18:25.680><c> Like</c><00:18:25.840><c> I</c><00:18:25.880><c> think</c>

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what's in the packaging? Like I think
 

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what's in the packaging? Like I think
there's<00:18:26.160><c> an</c><00:18:26.280><c> old</c><00:18:26.520><c> analogy</c><00:18:26.960><c> there's</c><00:18:27.160><c> a</c>

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there's an old analogy there's a
 

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there's an old analogy there's a
restaurant<00:18:27.600><c> I</c><00:18:27.640><c> can't</c><00:18:27.800><c> remember</c><00:18:27.960><c> what</c><00:18:28.040><c> it's</c>

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restaurant I can't remember what it's
 

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restaurant I can't remember what it's
called<00:18:28.320><c> like</c><00:18:28.480><c> it's</c><00:18:28.600><c> the</c><00:18:28.720><c> red</c><00:18:29.440><c> napkin</c><00:18:30.200><c> theory</c>

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called like it's the red napkin theory
 

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called like it's the red napkin theory
go<00:18:30.840><c> and</c><00:18:30.920><c> look</c><00:18:31.080><c> that</c><00:18:31.240><c> Google</c><00:18:31.560><c> it</c><00:18:31.720><c> for</c><00:18:32.200><c> for</c>

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go and look that Google it for for
 

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go and look that Google it for for
restaurants<00:18:32.840><c> where</c><00:18:33.120><c> if</c><00:18:33.280><c> it's</c><00:18:33.400><c> your</c><00:18:33.520><c> first</c>

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restaurants where if it's your first
 

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restaurants where if it's your first
time<00:18:34.200><c> here</c><00:18:34.920><c> we</c><00:18:35.000><c> put</c><00:18:35.160><c> the</c><00:18:35.240><c> red</c><00:18:35.400><c> napkin</c><00:18:35.800><c> down</c><00:18:36.080><c> and</c>

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time here we put the red napkin down and
 

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time here we put the red napkin down and
we're<00:18:36.280><c> going</c><00:18:36.400><c> to</c><00:18:36.440><c> give</c><00:18:36.560><c> you</c><00:18:36.680><c> a</c><00:18:36.720><c> special</c><00:18:37.120><c> level</c>

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we're going to give you a special level
 

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we're going to give you a special level
of<00:18:37.480><c> service.</c><00:18:37.920><c> That</c><00:18:38.080><c> first</c><00:18:38.400><c> delivery</c><00:18:38.720><c> is</c><00:18:38.800><c> going</c>

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of service. That first delivery is going
 

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of service. That first delivery is going
to<00:18:38.960><c> be</c><00:18:39.080><c> a</c><00:18:39.120><c> bit</c><00:18:39.280><c> different.</c><00:18:40.080><c> The</c><00:18:40.200><c> way</c><00:18:40.360><c> we</c><00:18:40.840><c> uh</c><00:18:40.880><c> put</c>

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to be a bit different. The way we uh put
 

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to be a bit different. The way we uh put
things<00:18:41.240><c> in</c><00:18:41.320><c> a</c><00:18:41.360><c> bag</c><00:18:41.680><c> if</c><00:18:41.760><c> it's</c><00:18:41.920><c> in</c><00:18:42.000><c> store</c><00:18:42.200><c> it's</c>

00:18:42.270 --> 00:18:42.280 align:start position:0%
things in a bag if it's in store it's
 

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things in a bag if it's in store it's
going<00:18:42.400><c> to</c><00:18:42.480><c> be</c><00:18:42.560><c> a</c><00:18:42.600><c> little</c><00:18:42.760><c> bit</c><00:18:42.880><c> different.</c>

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going to be a little bit different.
 

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going to be a little bit different.
We're<00:18:43.440><c> going</c><00:18:43.560><c> to</c><00:18:43.680><c> put</c><00:18:43.840><c> a</c><00:18:43.880><c> special</c><00:18:44.320><c> offer</c><00:18:44.520><c> in</c><00:18:44.720><c> in</c>

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We're going to put a special offer in in
 

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We're going to put a special offer in in
there<00:18:45.120><c> that's</c><00:18:45.360><c> a</c><00:18:45.720><c> good</c><00:18:46.000><c> offer</c><00:18:46.280><c> a</c><00:18:46.320><c> really</c><00:18:46.560><c> good</c>

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there that's a good offer a really good
 

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there that's a good offer a really good
offer<00:18:46.880><c> but</c><00:18:47.000><c> a</c><00:18:47.040><c> short</c><00:18:47.400><c> time</c><00:18:47.640><c> to</c><00:18:47.760><c> get</c><00:18:47.920><c> you</c><00:18:48.000><c> to</c>

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offer but a short time to get you to
 

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offer but a short time to get you to
shop<00:18:48.320><c> a</c><00:18:48.360><c> second</c><00:18:48.720><c> time.</c>

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shop a second time.
 

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shop a second time.
Cuz<00:18:50.040><c> once</c><00:18:50.240><c> you</c><00:18:50.280><c> get</c><00:18:50.800><c> that</c><00:18:51.080><c> Yeah,</c><00:18:51.200><c> and</c><00:18:51.320><c> I</c><00:18:51.360><c> think</c>

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Cuz once you get that Yeah, and I think
 

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Cuz once you get that Yeah, and I think
people<00:18:51.840><c> talk</c><00:18:51.960><c> about</c><00:18:52.160><c> frequency</c><00:18:52.680><c> and</c><00:18:52.760><c> all</c><00:18:52.840><c> this</c>

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people talk about frequency and all this
 

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people talk about frequency and all this
other<00:18:53.080><c> stuff,</c><00:18:53.320><c> but</c><00:18:53.480><c> I'd</c><00:18:53.600><c> just</c><00:18:53.720><c> be</c><00:18:53.800><c> going</c><00:18:54.080><c> who's</c>

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other stuff, but I'd just be going who's
 

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other stuff, but I'd just be going who's
my<00:18:54.520><c> one</c><00:18:54.720><c> and</c><00:18:54.800><c> dones?</c>

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my one and dones?
 

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my one and dones?
How<00:18:56.280><c> many</c><00:18:56.440><c> of</c><00:18:56.520><c> those</c><00:18:56.840><c> are</c><00:18:56.880><c> converting</c><00:18:57.360><c> to</c><00:18:57.480><c> a</c>

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How many of those are converting to a
 

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How many of those are converting to a
second<00:18:57.880><c> shop</c><00:18:58.120><c> and</c><00:18:58.240><c> then</c><00:18:58.440><c> to</c><00:18:58.560><c> a</c><00:18:58.640><c> third</c><00:18:59.000><c> shop?</c>

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second shop and then to a third shop?
 

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second shop and then to a third shop?
And<00:18:59.320><c> once</c><00:18:59.440><c> you</c><00:18:59.520><c> get</c><00:18:59.600><c> to</c><00:18:59.680><c> third</c><00:19:00.000><c> shop</c><00:19:00.160><c> onwards</c>

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And once you get to third shop onwards
 

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And once you get to third shop onwards
then<00:19:00.640><c> we're</c><00:19:00.760><c> talking</c><00:19:01.040><c> about</c><00:19:01.280><c> loyalty</c><00:19:01.560><c> program</c>

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then we're talking about loyalty program
 

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then we're talking about loyalty program
stuff,<00:19:02.280><c> but</c><00:19:02.440><c> that</c><00:19:03.040><c> one</c><00:19:03.240><c> to</c><00:19:03.360><c> two</c><00:19:03.840><c> two</c><00:19:04.040><c> to</c><00:19:04.120><c> three</c>

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stuff, but that one to two two to three
 

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stuff, but that one to two two to three
you<00:19:05.960><c> should</c><00:19:06.080><c> have</c><00:19:06.200><c> a</c><00:19:06.280><c> whole</c><00:19:06.480><c> team</c><00:19:07.160><c> dedicated</c>

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you should have a whole team dedicated
 

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you should have a whole team dedicated
to<00:19:08.320><c> to</c><00:19:08.480><c> making</c><00:19:08.920><c> to</c><00:19:09.080><c> optimizing</c><00:19:09.920><c> that</c>

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to to making to optimizing that
 

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to to making to optimizing that
conversion<00:19:10.680><c> funnel.</c><00:19:11.080><c> It's</c><00:19:11.200><c> not</c><00:19:11.320><c> a</c><00:19:11.360><c> conversion</c>

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conversion funnel. It's not a conversion
 

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conversion funnel. It's not a conversion
funnel<00:19:12.040><c> of</c><00:19:12.160><c> a</c><00:19:12.240><c> visit</c><00:19:12.560><c> to</c><00:19:12.680><c> a</c><00:19:12.720><c> purchase.</c><00:19:13.800><c> It's</c><00:19:13.920><c> a</c>

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funnel of a visit to a purchase. It's a
 

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funnel of a visit to a purchase. It's a
purchase<00:19:14.360><c> to</c><00:19:14.480><c> the</c><00:19:14.560><c> next</c><00:19:14.800><c> purchase.</c><00:19:15.440><c> So,</c><00:19:15.600><c> it's</c>

00:19:15.710 --> 00:19:15.720 align:start position:0%
purchase to the next purchase. So, it's
 

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purchase to the next purchase. So, it's
a<00:19:15.840><c> it's</c><00:19:15.960><c> a</c><00:19:16.040><c> longer</c><00:19:16.440><c> time</c><00:19:16.720><c> frame.</c>

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a it's a longer time frame.
 

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a it's a longer time frame.
Um<00:19:17.800><c> but</c><00:19:17.920><c> yeah,</c><00:19:18.360><c> good</c><00:19:18.520><c> offers,</c><00:19:19.320><c> um</c>

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Um but yeah, good offers, um
 

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Um but yeah, good offers, um
you<00:19:20.160><c> know,</c><00:19:20.280><c> loyalty,</c><00:19:20.840><c> bounce</c><00:19:21.200><c> backs,</c><00:19:22.080><c> you</c>

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you know, loyalty, bounce backs, you
 

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you know, loyalty, bounce backs, you
know,

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know,
 

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know,
if<00:19:23.320><c> you</c><00:19:23.400><c> throw</c><00:19:23.560><c> 50%</c><00:19:24.120><c> off</c><00:19:24.480><c> or,</c><00:19:24.720><c> you</c><00:19:24.800><c> know,</c><00:19:24.880><c> some</c>

00:19:25.030 --> 00:19:25.040 align:start position:0%
if you throw 50% off or, you know, some
 

00:19:25.040 --> 00:19:27.190 align:start position:0%
if you throw 50% off or, you know, some
20%<00:19:25.640><c> off</c><00:19:25.760><c> voucher</c><00:19:26.120><c> to</c><00:19:26.280><c> sign</c><00:19:26.520><c> up</c><00:19:26.640><c> in</c><00:19:26.720><c> the</c><00:19:26.840><c> first</c>

00:19:27.190 --> 00:19:27.200 align:start position:0%
20% off voucher to sign up in the first
 

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20% off voucher to sign up in the first
place<00:19:27.360><c> to</c><00:19:27.480><c> get</c><00:19:27.600><c> that</c><00:19:27.760><c> first</c><00:19:28.040><c> voucher,</c><00:19:28.800><c> then</c>

00:19:28.990 --> 00:19:29.000 align:start position:0%
place to get that first voucher, then
 

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place to get that first voucher, then
I'm<00:19:29.080><c> probably</c><00:19:29.320><c> not</c><00:19:29.440><c> going</c><00:19:29.560><c> to</c><00:19:29.640><c> bite</c><00:19:29.960><c> on</c>

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I'm probably not going to bite on
 

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I'm probably not going to bite on
anything<00:19:30.480><c> less</c><00:19:30.680><c> than</c><00:19:30.840><c> that</c><00:19:31.000><c> for</c><00:19:31.120><c> a</c><00:19:31.200><c> second</c>

00:19:31.510 --> 00:19:31.520 align:start position:0%
anything less than that for a second
 

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anything less than that for a second
purchase.<00:19:31.920><c> So,</c><00:19:32.040><c> you</c>

00:19:32.830 --> 00:19:32.840 align:start position:0%
purchase. So, you
 

00:19:32.840 --> 00:19:34.790 align:start position:0%
purchase. So, you
a<00:19:32.880><c> lot</c><00:19:33.080><c> of</c><00:19:33.160><c> people</c><00:19:33.480><c> are</c><00:19:33.640><c> acquiring</c><00:19:34.240><c> the</c><00:19:34.360><c> wrong</c>

00:19:34.790 --> 00:19:34.800 align:start position:0%
a lot of people are acquiring the wrong
 

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a lot of people are acquiring the wrong
kind<00:19:35.120><c> of</c><00:19:35.240><c> bottom</c><00:19:35.560><c> feeder</c><00:19:36.240><c> discount</c><00:19:36.800><c> customers</c>

00:19:37.750 --> 00:19:37.760 align:start position:0%
kind of bottom feeder discount customers
 

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kind of bottom feeder discount customers
in<00:19:37.880><c> the</c><00:19:37.960><c> first</c><00:19:38.280><c> place.</c><00:19:38.720><c> So,</c><00:19:39.560><c> yeah,</c><00:19:39.800><c> you</c><00:19:39.920><c> sort</c>

00:19:40.030 --> 00:19:40.040 align:start position:0%
in the first place. So, yeah, you sort
 

00:19:40.040 --> 00:19:42.670 align:start position:0%
in the first place. So, yeah, you sort
of<00:19:40.120><c> want</c><00:19:40.240><c> to</c><00:19:40.320><c> focus</c><00:19:40.680><c> on</c>

00:19:42.670 --> 00:19:42.680 align:start position:0%
of want to focus on
 

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of want to focus on
what<00:19:43.080><c> what</c><00:19:43.360><c> what</c><00:19:43.520><c> are</c><00:19:43.600><c> also</c><00:19:43.920><c> going</c><00:19:44.040><c> to</c><00:19:44.120><c> capture</c>

00:19:44.470 --> 00:19:44.480 align:start position:0%
what what what are also going to capture
 

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what what what are also going to capture
during<00:19:44.720><c> that</c><00:19:44.840><c> store</c><00:19:45.120><c> experience</c><00:19:45.640><c> that's</c><00:19:45.880><c> not</c>

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during that store experience that's not
 

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during that store experience that's not
price<00:19:46.600><c> related.</c><00:19:47.680><c> So,</c><00:19:47.800><c> a</c><00:19:47.840><c> size,</c><00:19:48.720><c> if</c><00:19:48.840><c> it's</c><00:19:49.000><c> a</c><00:19:49.040><c> if</c>

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price related. So, a size, if it's a if
 

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price related. So, a size, if it's a if
it's<00:19:49.320><c> a</c><00:19:49.600><c> apparel</c><00:19:50.000><c> brands,</c><00:19:50.440><c> just</c><00:19:50.600><c> saying</c><00:19:50.920><c> you</c>

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it's a apparel brands, just saying you
 

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it's a apparel brands, just saying you
bought<00:19:51.240><c> something</c><00:19:51.480><c> in</c><00:19:51.560><c> store,</c><00:19:51.800><c> is</c><00:19:51.880><c> that</c><00:19:52.080><c> for</c>

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bought something in store, is that for
 

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bought something in store, is that for
you?<00:19:52.440><c> Is</c><00:19:52.520><c> that</c><00:19:52.640><c> for</c><00:19:52.760><c> your</c><00:19:52.920><c> size?</c>

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you? Is that for your size?
 

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you? Is that for your size?
While<00:19:54.280><c> you're</c><00:19:54.400><c> in</c><00:19:54.440><c> the</c><00:19:54.520><c> change</c><00:19:54.840><c> room,</c><00:19:54.960><c> why</c>

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While you're in the change room, why
 

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While you're in the change room, why
don't<00:19:55.200><c> you</c><00:19:55.280><c> put</c><00:19:55.440><c> on</c><00:19:55.520><c> a</c><00:19:55.560><c> top</c><00:19:55.800><c> or</c><00:19:55.920><c> some</c><00:19:56.040><c> pants</c><00:19:56.360><c> as</c>

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don't you put on a top or some pants as
 

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don't you put on a top or some pants as
well,<00:19:56.680><c> even</c><00:19:56.800><c> though</c><00:19:56.880><c> you're</c><00:19:56.960><c> not</c><00:19:57.080><c> going</c><00:19:57.200><c> to</c>

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well, even though you're not going to
 

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well, even though you're not going to
buy<00:19:57.520><c> them,</c><00:19:58.000><c> so</c><00:19:58.120><c> that</c><00:19:58.320><c> I</c><00:19:58.400><c> can</c><00:19:58.560><c> say</c><00:19:58.680><c> that's</c><00:19:58.920><c> now</c>

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buy them, so that I can say that's now
 

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buy them, so that I can say that's now
on<00:19:59.240><c> your</c><00:19:59.360><c> profile</c><00:19:59.800><c> ready</c><00:20:00.040><c> for</c><00:20:00.160><c> next</c><00:20:00.440><c> time.</c>

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on your profile ready for next time.
 

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on your profile ready for next time.
Yeah,<00:20:01.520><c> you</c><00:20:01.640><c> should</c><00:20:01.840><c> shop</c><00:20:02.040><c> with</c><00:20:02.200><c> us</c><00:20:02.320><c> again</c>

00:20:02.670 --> 00:20:02.680 align:start position:0%
Yeah, you should shop with us again
 

00:20:02.680 --> 00:20:05.710 align:start position:0%
Yeah, you should shop with us again
because<00:20:03.440><c> this</c><00:20:03.640><c> is</c><00:20:03.760><c> a</c><00:20:03.800><c> better</c><00:20:04.040><c> experience.</c>

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because this is a better experience.
 

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because this is a better experience.
&gt;&gt; Yeah,<00:20:06.000><c> absolutely.</c><00:20:06.440><c> Like</c><00:20:06.720><c> Amazon's</c><00:20:07.200><c> a</c><00:20:07.280><c> good</c>

00:20:07.430 --> 00:20:07.440 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Yeah, absolutely. Like Amazon's a good
 

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&gt;&gt; Yeah, absolutely. Like Amazon's a good
example<00:20:07.920><c> there,</c><00:20:08.200><c> aren't</c><00:20:08.360><c> they?</c><00:20:08.520><c> Like</c><00:20:08.840><c> you</c><00:20:09.200><c> but</c>

00:20:09.390 --> 00:20:09.400 align:start position:0%
example there, aren't they? Like you but
 

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example there, aren't they? Like you but
make<00:20:09.600><c> your</c><00:20:09.720><c> first</c><00:20:10.080><c> purchase</c><00:20:10.560><c> with</c><00:20:10.760><c> Amazon,</c>

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make your first purchase with Amazon,
 

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make your first purchase with Amazon,
they<00:20:11.320><c> give</c><00:20:11.560><c> you</c><00:20:11.680><c> Prime</c><00:20:12.120><c> for</c><00:20:12.280><c> free,</c><00:20:12.800><c> they</c>

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they give you Prime for free, they
 

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they give you Prime for free, they
express<00:20:13.640><c> post</c><00:20:14.000><c> it</c><00:20:14.120><c> for</c><00:20:14.240><c> free,</c><00:20:14.720><c> they</c><00:20:15.560><c> Yeah,</c><00:20:15.640><c> I'm</c>

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express post it for free, they Yeah, I'm
 

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express post it for free, they Yeah, I'm
sure<00:20:15.920><c> they're</c><00:20:16.040><c> not</c><00:20:16.280><c> they're</c><00:20:16.400><c> they're</c>

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sure they're not they're they're
 

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sure they're not they're they're
probably<00:20:16.840><c> not</c><00:20:16.960><c> making</c><00:20:17.280><c> money</c><00:20:17.560><c> on</c><00:20:17.840><c> the</c><00:20:17.960><c> first</c>

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probably not making money on the first
 

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probably not making money on the first
purchase<00:20:18.840><c> or</c><00:20:18.960><c> two</c><00:20:19.200><c> that</c><00:20:19.320><c> you</c><00:20:19.400><c> make</c><00:20:19.640><c> or</c>

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purchase or two that you make or
 

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purchase or two that you make or
somewhere,<00:20:20.200><c> but</c><00:20:20.760><c> yeah,</c><00:20:20.960><c> you're</c><00:20:21.280><c> you're</c><00:20:21.520><c> in</c>

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somewhere, but yeah, you're you're in
 

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somewhere, but yeah, you're you're in
their<00:20:21.920><c> web.</c><00:20:22.200><c> And</c><00:20:22.320><c> obviously</c><00:20:22.640><c> their</c><00:20:22.920><c> web's</c>

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their web. And obviously their web's
 

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their web. And obviously their web's
much<00:20:24.120><c> bigger</c><00:20:24.440><c> than</c><00:20:24.680><c> a</c><00:20:25.240><c> than</c><00:20:25.440><c> a</c><00:20:25.520><c> single</c><00:20:25.880><c> brand</c>

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much bigger than a than a single brand
 

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much bigger than a than a single brand
retailer,<00:20:26.880><c> but</c><00:20:27.480><c> but</c><00:20:27.680><c> yeah,</c><00:20:27.880><c> that's</c><00:20:28.120><c> it.</c><00:20:28.240><c> It's</c>

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retailer, but but yeah, that's it. It's
 

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retailer, but but yeah, that's it. It's
getting<00:20:28.720><c> that</c><00:20:28.880><c> that</c><00:20:29.120><c> they</c><00:20:29.280><c> know</c><00:20:29.760><c> the</c><00:20:29.960><c> things</c>

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getting that that they know the things
 

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getting that that they know the things
to<00:20:30.440><c> do</c><00:20:30.560><c> to</c><00:20:30.680><c> get</c><00:20:30.880><c> that</c><00:20:31.080><c> second</c><00:20:31.480><c> purchase</c><00:20:32.120><c> and</c>

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to do to get that second purchase and
 

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to do to get that second purchase and
and<00:20:33.120><c> it's</c><00:20:33.520><c> and</c><00:20:33.640><c> it's</c><00:20:33.800><c> not</c><00:20:34.160><c> what</c><00:20:34.280><c> they</c><00:20:34.360><c> want</c><00:20:34.600><c> to</c>

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and it's and it's not what they want to
 

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and it's and it's not what they want to
do

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do
 

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do
&gt;&gt; [clears throat]

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&gt;&gt; [clears throat]
 

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&gt;&gt; [clears throat]
&gt;&gt; either,<00:20:35.360><c> is</c><00:20:35.480><c> it?</c>

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&gt;&gt; either, is it?
 

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&gt;&gt; either, is it?
&gt;&gt; And<00:20:36.360><c> a</c><00:20:36.400><c> lot</c><00:20:36.600><c> of</c><00:20:36.680><c> brands</c><00:20:36.960><c> probably,</c><00:20:37.640><c> rightly</c><00:20:38.000><c> or</c>

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&gt;&gt; And a lot of brands probably, rightly or
 

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&gt;&gt; And a lot of brands probably, rightly or
wrongly,<00:20:38.680><c> they'll</c><00:20:39.280><c> they'll</c><00:20:39.520><c> really</c><00:20:39.840><c> focus</c><00:20:40.160><c> on</c>

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wrongly, they'll they'll really focus on
 

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wrongly, they'll they'll really focus on
that<00:20:40.400><c> acquisition,</c><00:20:40.920><c> that</c><00:20:41.120><c> first</c><00:20:41.440><c> purchase.</c>

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that acquisition, that first purchase.
 

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that acquisition, that first purchase.
They'll<00:20:42.200><c> give</c><00:20:42.360><c> away</c><00:20:42.560><c> all</c><00:20:42.720><c> their</c><00:20:42.840><c> margin</c><00:20:43.280><c> on</c>

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They'll give away all their margin on
 

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They'll give away all their margin on
the<00:20:43.480><c> discount</c><00:20:44.000><c> that</c><00:20:44.120><c> got</c><00:20:44.320><c> you</c><00:20:44.400><c> through</c><00:20:44.600><c> the</c>

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the discount that got you through the
 

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the discount that got you through the
door<00:20:44.960><c> in</c><00:20:45.000><c> the</c><00:20:45.080><c> first</c><00:20:45.440><c> place,</c><00:20:45.720><c> so</c><00:20:45.800><c> they</c><00:20:45.880><c> can't</c>

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door in the first place, so they can't
 

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door in the first place, so they can't
afford<00:20:46.520><c> to</c><00:20:46.600><c> give</c><00:20:46.760><c> you</c><00:20:46.840><c> the</c><00:20:47.200><c> the</c><00:20:47.360><c> better</c>

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afford to give you the the better
 

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afford to give you the the better
follow-up<00:20:48.160><c> experience</c><00:20:48.720><c> cuz</c><00:20:48.840><c> they've</c><00:20:48.960><c> already</c>

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follow-up experience cuz they've already
 

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follow-up experience cuz they've already
blown<00:20:49.440><c> it</c><00:20:49.560><c> all</c><00:20:49.720><c> on</c><00:20:49.840><c> the</c><00:20:49.920><c> acquisition</c><00:20:50.360><c> in</c><00:20:50.440><c> the</c>

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blown it all on the acquisition in the
 

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blown it all on the acquisition in the
first<00:20:50.800><c> place.</c>

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first place.
 

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first place.
Um<00:20:52.320><c> I</c><00:20:52.440><c> would</c><00:20:52.680><c> rather</c><00:20:53.360><c> It's</c><00:20:53.520><c> a,</c><00:20:53.760><c> you</c><00:20:53.840><c> know,</c><00:20:53.960><c> it</c>

00:20:54.070 --> 00:20:54.080 align:start position:0%
Um I would rather It's a, you know, it
 

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Um I would rather It's a, you know, it
takes<00:20:54.360><c> a</c><00:20:54.400><c> bit</c><00:20:54.560><c> of</c><00:20:54.880><c> guts</c><00:20:55.240><c> to</c><00:20:55.320><c> do</c><00:20:55.440><c> it.</c><00:20:55.520><c> The</c><00:20:55.640><c> brands</c>

00:20:56.030 --> 00:20:56.040 align:start position:0%
takes a bit of guts to do it. The brands
 

00:20:56.040 --> 00:20:57.510 align:start position:0%
takes a bit of guts to do it. The brands
should<00:20:56.200><c> be</c><00:20:56.320><c> dialing</c><00:20:56.760><c> all</c><00:20:56.880><c> that</c><00:20:57.080><c> back</c><00:20:57.400><c> and</c>

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should be dialing all that back and
 

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should be dialing all that back and
going,<00:20:58.240><c> "I</c><00:20:58.320><c> can</c><00:20:58.400><c> give</c><00:20:58.560><c> you</c><00:20:58.640><c> $10</c><00:20:59.080><c> to</c><00:20:59.200><c> join</c><00:21:00.040><c> or</c>

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going, "I can give you $10 to join or
 

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going, "I can give you $10 to join or
give<00:21:00.320><c> you</c><00:21:00.400><c> $20</c><00:21:00.880><c> on</c><00:21:01.000><c> your</c><00:21:01.080><c> next</c><00:21:01.280><c> shop.</c><00:21:01.720><c> Which</c>

00:21:01.870 --> 00:21:01.880 align:start position:0%
give you $20 on your next shop. Which
 

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give you $20 on your next shop. Which
would<00:21:02.000><c> you</c><00:21:02.080><c> prefer?"</c><00:21:03.000><c> So,</c><00:21:03.440><c> I'd</c><00:21:03.720><c> say</c><00:21:04.400><c> if</c><00:21:04.680><c> if</c>

00:21:05.190 --> 00:21:05.200 align:start position:0%
would you prefer?" So, I'd say if if
 

00:21:05.200 --> 00:21:06.910 align:start position:0%
would you prefer?" So, I'd say if if
going<00:21:05.480><c> from</c><00:21:05.640><c> one</c><00:21:05.840><c> to</c><00:21:05.920><c> the</c><00:21:06.040><c> other</c><00:21:06.200><c> strategy</c>

00:21:06.910 --> 00:21:06.920 align:start position:0%
going from one to the other strategy
 

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going from one to the other strategy
reduces<00:21:07.520><c> the</c><00:21:07.640><c> acquisition</c><00:21:08.160><c> by</c><00:21:08.360><c> half.</c><00:21:09.040><c> I'm</c><00:21:09.200><c> all</c>

00:21:09.350 --> 00:21:09.360 align:start position:0%
reduces the acquisition by half. I'm all
 

00:21:09.360 --> 00:21:10.870 align:start position:0%
reduces the acquisition by half. I'm all
for<00:21:09.480><c> that</c><00:21:09.880><c> if</c><00:21:10.120><c> the</c><00:21:10.240><c> number</c><00:21:10.480><c> of</c><00:21:10.520><c> people</c><00:21:10.760><c> that</c>

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for that if the number of people that
 

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for that if the number of people that
return<00:21:11.880><c> is</c><00:21:12.040><c> higher.</c><00:21:12.360><c> I</c><00:21:12.440><c> think</c><00:21:12.760><c> the</c><00:21:13.200><c> the</c><00:21:13.320><c> longer</c>

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return is higher. I think the the longer
 

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return is higher. I think the the longer
even<00:21:14.440><c> longer</c><00:21:14.680><c> term</c><00:21:14.880><c> I'm</c><00:21:14.960><c> not</c><00:21:15.280><c> talking</c>

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even longer term I'm not talking
 

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even longer term I'm not talking
multi-year.<00:21:16.120><c> I'm</c><00:21:16.200><c> just</c><00:21:16.400><c> talking</c><00:21:16.640><c> even</c><00:21:16.800><c> the</c>

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multi-year. I'm just talking even the
 

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multi-year. I'm just talking even the
first<00:21:17.160><c> 6</c><00:21:17.360><c> months</c><00:21:18.160><c> or</c><00:21:18.280><c> 12</c><00:21:18.480><c> month</c><00:21:18.640><c> revenue</c><00:21:19.000><c> from</c>

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first 6 months or 12 month revenue from
 

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first 6 months or 12 month revenue from
that<00:21:19.280><c> cohort</c><00:21:19.800><c> would</c><00:21:19.920><c> be</c><00:21:20.160><c> so</c><00:21:20.440><c> much</c><00:21:20.720><c> more</c><00:21:20.920><c> on</c><00:21:21.000><c> the</c>

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that cohort would be so much more on the
 

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that cohort would be so much more on the
margin<00:21:21.520><c> and</c><00:21:21.640><c> the</c><00:21:21.680><c> profit</c><00:21:22.040><c> would</c><00:21:22.160><c> be</c><00:21:22.240><c> so</c><00:21:22.400><c> much</c>

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margin and the profit would be so much
 

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margin and the profit would be so much
more

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more
 

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more
than<00:21:24.200><c> this</c><00:21:24.440><c> sort</c><00:21:24.640><c> of</c><00:21:25.000><c> vanity</c><00:21:25.400><c> metric</c>

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than this sort of vanity metric
 

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than this sort of vanity metric
acquisition<00:21:26.720><c> based</c><00:21:27.000><c> strategies</c><00:21:27.480><c> that</c><00:21:27.600><c> a</c><00:21:27.640><c> lot</c>

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acquisition based strategies that a lot
 

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acquisition based strategies that a lot
of<00:21:27.840><c> brands</c><00:21:28.080><c> are</c><00:21:28.120><c> taking.</c>

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of brands are taking.
 

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of brands are taking.
&gt;&gt; Yeah,<00:21:29.560><c> absolutely.</c><00:21:30.160><c> And</c><00:21:30.280><c> that's</c><00:21:30.480><c> it.</c><00:21:30.600><c> That</c>

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&gt;&gt; Yeah, absolutely. And that's it. That
 

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&gt;&gt; Yeah, absolutely. And that's it. That
like<00:21:31.080><c> that</c><00:21:31.240><c> to</c><00:21:31.320><c> me</c><00:21:31.440><c> that's</c><00:21:31.640><c> one</c><00:21:31.760><c> of</c><00:21:31.840><c> the</c><00:21:31.920><c> most</c>

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like that to me that's one of the most
 

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like that to me that's one of the most
like<00:21:32.720><c> it's</c><00:21:32.840><c> a</c><00:21:32.920><c> perfect</c><00:21:33.320><c> example</c><00:21:33.800><c> of</c><00:21:33.840><c> just</c>

00:21:34.030 --> 00:21:34.040 align:start position:0%
like it's a perfect example of just
 

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like it's a perfect example of just
moving<00:21:34.400><c> the</c><00:21:34.520><c> needle</c><00:21:34.960><c> a</c><00:21:35.000><c> little</c><00:21:35.240><c> bit.</c><00:21:35.960><c> You</c>

00:21:36.190 --> 00:21:36.200 align:start position:0%
moving the needle a little bit. You
 

00:21:36.200 --> 00:21:38.750 align:start position:0%
moving the needle a little bit. You
still<00:21:36.400><c> see</c><00:21:36.600><c> $20</c><00:21:37.680><c> when</c><00:21:37.920><c> you</c><00:21:38.160><c> pop</c><00:21:38.400><c> up</c><00:21:38.560><c> on</c><00:21:38.640><c> the</c>

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still see $20 when you pop up on the
 

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still see $20 when you pop up on the
site<00:21:39.160><c> and</c><00:21:39.360><c> see</c><00:21:39.920><c> when</c><00:21:40.120><c> you</c><00:21:40.200><c> place</c><00:21:40.480><c> an</c><00:21:40.560><c> order</c><00:21:40.800><c> you</c>

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site and see when you place an order you
 

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site and see when you place an order you
get<00:21:41.080><c> $20</c><00:21:41.680><c> store</c><00:21:41.960><c> credit</c><00:21:42.360><c> or</c><00:21:42.480><c> a</c><00:21:42.520><c> $20</c><00:21:43.000><c> voucher.</c>

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get $20 store credit or a $20 voucher.
 

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get $20 store credit or a $20 voucher.
But<00:21:44.360><c> yeah,</c><00:21:44.640><c> if</c><00:21:44.840><c> it</c><00:21:45.000><c> if</c><00:21:45.160><c> that's</c><00:21:45.920><c> something</c><00:21:46.520><c> you</c>

00:21:46.590 --> 00:21:46.600 align:start position:0%
But yeah, if it if that's something you
 

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But yeah, if it if that's something you
can<00:21:46.760><c> use</c><00:21:47.000><c> on</c><00:21:47.120><c> your</c><00:21:47.240><c> second</c><00:21:47.600><c> order</c><00:21:47.920><c> then</c><00:21:48.560><c> yeah,</c>

00:21:48.750 --> 00:21:48.760 align:start position:0%
can use on your second order then yeah,
 

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can use on your second order then yeah,
you're<00:21:48.880><c> not</c><00:21:49.080><c> losing</c><00:21:49.440><c> the</c><00:21:49.520><c> margin</c><00:21:49.960><c> off</c><00:21:50.080><c> those</c>

00:21:50.430 --> 00:21:50.440 align:start position:0%
you're not losing the margin off those
 

00:21:50.440 --> 00:21:53.310 align:start position:0%
you're not losing the margin off those
one-off<00:21:50.840><c> purchases.</c><00:21:51.560><c> Like</c><00:21:52.120><c> yeah,</c><00:21:52.400><c> like</c><00:21:53.000><c> you</c>

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one-off purchases. Like yeah, like you
 

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one-off purchases. Like yeah, like you
or<00:21:53.480><c> I</c><00:21:53.560><c> probably</c><00:21:54.280><c> go</c><00:21:54.480><c> and</c><00:21:54.640><c> shop</c><00:21:54.840><c> for</c><00:21:54.920><c> Mother's</c>

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or I probably go and shop for Mother's
 

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or I probably go and shop for Mother's
Day<00:21:55.760><c> and</c><00:21:56.000><c> go</c><00:21:56.120><c> to</c><00:21:56.280><c> a</c><00:21:56.360><c> shop</c><00:21:56.600><c> that</c><00:21:56.720><c> we're</c><00:21:56.840><c> not</c>

00:21:56.990 --> 00:21:57.000 align:start position:0%
Day and go to a shop that we're not
 

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Day and go to a shop that we're not
going<00:21:57.120><c> to</c><00:21:57.360><c> go</c><00:21:57.640><c> to</c><00:21:57.760><c> again</c><00:21:58.280><c> ever</c><00:21:58.800><c> or</c><00:21:59.360><c> worse</c><00:21:59.680><c> not</c>

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going to go to again ever or worse not
 

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going to go to again ever or worse not
until<00:22:00.080><c> Christmas</c><00:22:00.480><c> or</c><00:22:00.600><c> next</c><00:22:00.840><c> Mother's</c><00:22:01.160><c> Day.</c><00:22:01.760><c> So</c>

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until Christmas or next Mother's Day. So
 

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until Christmas or next Mother's Day. So
why<00:22:02.120><c> give</c><00:22:02.360><c> us</c><00:22:02.560><c> a</c><00:22:02.720><c> $10</c><00:22:03.280><c> discount</c><00:22:03.800><c> off</c><00:22:03.960><c> our</c><00:22:04.120><c> first</c>

00:22:04.470 --> 00:22:04.480 align:start position:0%
why give us a $10 discount off our first
 

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why give us a $10 discount off our first
order?<00:22:04.760><c> Give</c><00:22:05.000><c> that</c>

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order? Give that
 

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order? Give that
&gt;&gt; Yeah,<00:22:05.640><c> we</c><00:22:05.720><c> we</c><00:22:05.800><c> we</c><00:22:05.920><c> did</c><00:22:06.120><c> need</c><00:22:06.280><c> that</c>

00:22:07.150 --> 00:22:07.160 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Yeah, we we we did need that
 

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&gt;&gt; Yeah, we we we did need that
but<00:22:07.720><c> as</c><00:22:07.840><c> part</c><00:22:08.040><c> of</c><00:22:08.080><c> that</c><00:22:08.240><c> process</c><00:22:08.760><c> let</c><00:22:08.960><c> me</c><00:22:09.440><c> when</c>

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but as part of that process let me when
 

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but as part of that process let me when
I<00:22:09.600><c> when</c><00:22:09.720><c> the</c><00:22:09.880><c> gift</c><00:22:10.320><c> arrives</c><00:22:10.920><c> or</c><00:22:11.240><c> send</c><00:22:11.560><c> me</c><00:22:11.720><c> a</c>

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I when the gift arrives or send me a
 

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I when the gift arrives or send me a
separate<00:22:12.320><c> email</c><00:22:12.760><c> that</c><00:22:12.920><c> says</c><00:22:13.280><c> why</c><00:22:13.400><c> don't</c><00:22:13.520><c> you</c>

00:22:13.590 --> 00:22:13.600 align:start position:0%
separate email that says why don't you
 

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separate email that says why don't you
register<00:22:14.000><c> your</c><00:22:14.120><c> mom's</c><00:22:14.400><c> birth</c><00:22:14.640><c> date</c><00:22:15.440><c> with</c><00:22:15.600><c> us</c>

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register your mom's birth date with us
 

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register your mom's birth date with us
and<00:22:16.640><c> then</c><00:22:16.800><c> next</c><00:22:17.120><c> year</c><00:22:17.320><c> we'll</c><00:22:17.440><c> come</c><00:22:17.640><c> back</c><00:22:17.840><c> to</c>

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and then next year we'll come back to
 

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and then next year we'll come back to
you<00:22:18.080><c> and</c><00:22:18.200><c> remind</c><00:22:18.600><c> you</c><00:22:18.920><c> well</c><00:22:19.160><c> in</c><00:22:19.240><c> advance</c><00:22:19.720><c> that</c>

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you and remind you well in advance that
 

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you and remind you well in advance that
we've<00:22:20.040><c> got</c><00:22:20.200><c> a</c><00:22:20.240><c> great</c><00:22:20.520><c> new</c><00:22:20.640><c> gift</c><00:22:20.880><c> for</c><00:22:21.080><c> her</c>

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we've got a great new gift for her
 

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we've got a great new gift for her
that's<00:22:21.520><c> won't</c><00:22:21.760><c> let</c><00:22:21.880><c> you</c><00:22:22.560><c> don't</c><00:22:22.760><c> you</c>

00:22:23.030 --> 00:22:23.040 align:start position:0%
that's won't let you don't you
 

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that's won't let you don't you
accidentally<00:22:23.520><c> buy</c><00:22:23.680><c> the</c><00:22:23.760><c> same</c><00:22:24.000><c> thing</c><00:22:24.200><c> you</c>

00:22:24.270 --> 00:22:24.280 align:start position:0%
accidentally buy the same thing you
 

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accidentally buy the same thing you
bought<00:22:24.480><c> her</c><00:22:24.560><c> last</c><00:22:24.880><c> year.</c><00:22:25.000><c> But</c>

00:22:26.110 --> 00:22:26.120 align:start position:0%
bought her last year. But
 

00:22:26.120 --> 00:22:27.110 align:start position:0%
bought her last year. But
yeah,<00:22:26.320><c> you</c><00:22:26.400><c> know,</c>

00:22:27.110 --> 00:22:27.120 align:start position:0%
yeah, you know,
 

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yeah, you know,
there's<00:22:27.280><c> some</c><00:22:27.440><c> really</c><00:22:27.720><c> interesting</c><00:22:28.400><c> sort</c><00:22:28.560><c> of</c>

00:22:28.750 --> 00:22:28.760 align:start position:0%
there's some really interesting sort of
 

00:22:28.760 --> 00:22:31.230 align:start position:0%
there's some really interesting sort of
help<00:22:29.120><c> me</c><00:22:29.320><c> shop</c><00:22:29.720><c> mechanics.</c><00:22:30.440><c> I</c><00:22:30.520><c> think</c><00:22:30.640><c> that's</c>

00:22:31.230 --> 00:22:31.240 align:start position:0%
help me shop mechanics. I think that's
 

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help me shop mechanics. I think that's
if<00:22:31.320><c> I</c><00:22:31.360><c> was</c><00:22:31.440><c> to</c><00:22:31.520><c> sum</c><00:22:31.680><c> it</c><00:22:31.760><c> all</c><00:22:31.880><c> up</c><00:22:32.080><c> help</c><00:22:32.320><c> me</c><00:22:32.440><c> shop.</c>

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if I was to sum it all up help me shop.
 

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if I was to sum it all up help me shop.
Don't<00:22:33.600><c> help</c><00:22:33.880><c> yourselves.</c><00:22:34.440><c> I</c><00:22:34.480><c> help</c><00:22:34.680><c> me</c><00:22:34.800><c> shop.</c>

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Don't help yourselves. I help me shop.
 

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Don't help yourselves. I help me shop.
So<00:22:35.280><c> what</c><00:22:35.520><c> what</c><00:22:35.680><c> mechanics</c><00:22:36.040><c> can</c><00:22:36.240><c> you</c><00:22:36.320><c> put</c><00:22:36.520><c> that</c>

00:22:36.630 --> 00:22:36.640 align:start position:0%
So what what mechanics can you put that
 

00:22:36.640 --> 00:22:38.070 align:start position:0%
So what what mechanics can you put that
would<00:22:36.760><c> do</c><00:22:36.960><c> that?</c>

00:22:38.070 --> 00:22:38.080 align:start position:0%
would do that?
 

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would do that?
&gt;&gt; Yeah,<00:22:38.440><c> yeah,</c><00:22:38.720><c> absolutely.</c><00:22:39.480><c> And</c><00:22:40.240><c> um</c><00:22:40.960><c> we've</c>

00:22:41.070 --> 00:22:41.080 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And um we've
 

00:22:41.080 --> 00:22:42.670 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And um we've
actually<00:22:41.280><c> got</c><00:22:41.360><c> about</c><00:22:41.520><c> 15</c><00:22:42.040><c> more</c><00:22:42.200><c> questions</c><00:22:42.640><c> I</c>

00:22:42.670 --> 00:22:42.680 align:start position:0%
actually got about 15 more questions I
 

00:22:42.680 --> 00:22:44.110 align:start position:0%
actually got about 15 more questions I
want<00:22:42.840><c> to</c><00:22:42.920><c> ask</c><00:22:43.240><c> you</c><00:22:43.360><c> actually</c><00:22:43.760><c> out</c><00:22:43.880><c> of</c><00:22:43.960><c> this</c>

00:22:44.110 --> 00:22:44.120 align:start position:0%
want to ask you actually out of this
 

00:22:44.120 --> 00:22:45.990 align:start position:0%
want to ask you actually out of this
conversation.<00:22:45.200><c> And</c><00:22:45.320><c> I</c><00:22:45.400><c> said</c><00:22:45.680><c> I</c><00:22:45.720><c> was</c><00:22:45.840><c> going</c><00:22:45.960><c> to</c>

00:22:45.990 --> 00:22:46.000 align:start position:0%
conversation. And I said I was going to
 

00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:47.990 align:start position:0%
conversation. And I said I was going to
try<00:22:46.200><c> and</c><00:22:46.320><c> keep</c><00:22:46.560><c> it</c><00:22:46.680><c> to</c><00:22:46.720><c> about</c><00:22:46.960><c> 25</c><00:22:47.560><c> minutes.</c><00:22:47.880><c> So</c>

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try and keep it to about 25 minutes. So
 

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try and keep it to about 25 minutes. So
I'm<00:22:48.120><c> going</c><00:22:48.240><c> to</c><00:22:48.320><c> try</c><00:22:48.680><c> and</c><00:22:48.920><c> um</c><00:22:49.320><c> fire</c><00:22:49.600><c> off</c><00:22:49.720><c> with</c><00:22:49.840><c> a</c>

00:22:49.870 --> 00:22:49.880 align:start position:0%
I'm going to try and um fire off with a
 

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I'm going to try and um fire off with a
couple<00:22:50.240><c> of</c><00:22:50.320><c> different</c><00:22:50.640><c> topics</c><00:22:51.000><c> just</c><00:22:51.200><c> to</c><00:22:51.280><c> get</c><00:22:51.400><c> a</c>

00:22:51.470 --> 00:22:51.480 align:start position:0%
couple of different topics just to get a
 

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couple of different topics just to get a
quick<00:22:51.760><c> take</c><00:22:52.080><c> from</c><00:22:52.320><c> you.</c><00:22:52.840><c> But</c><00:22:53.200><c> um</c><00:22:53.720><c> I'd</c><00:22:53.840><c> love</c><00:22:54.040><c> to</c>

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quick take from you. But um I'd love to
 

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quick take from you. But um I'd love to
just<00:22:54.560><c> not</c><00:22:54.760><c> like</c><00:22:54.960><c> the</c><00:22:55.200><c> the</c><00:22:55.320><c> other</c><00:22:55.520><c> thing</c><00:22:55.720><c> with</c>

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just not like the the other thing with
 

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just not like the the other thing with
data<00:22:56.440><c> is</c><00:22:56.960><c> just</c><00:22:57.360><c> the</c><00:22:57.520><c> messiness</c><00:22:58.200><c> of</c><00:22:58.400><c> it.</c><00:22:58.600><c> Like</c>

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data is just the messiness of it. Like
 

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data is just the messiness of it. Like
it's<00:22:59.560><c> almost</c><00:23:00.040><c> and</c><00:23:00.760><c> I</c><00:23:00.840><c> say</c><00:23:01.080><c> like</c><00:23:01.320><c> you</c>

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it's almost and I say like you
 

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it's almost and I say like you
when<00:23:02.360><c> I</c><00:23:02.520><c> used</c><00:23:02.680><c> to</c><00:23:02.760><c> do</c><00:23:02.880><c> platform</c><00:23:03.360><c> migrations</c>

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when I used to do platform migrations
 

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when I used to do platform migrations
for<00:23:04.120><c> people</c><00:23:04.400><c> to</c><00:23:04.480><c> Shopify,</c><00:23:04.960><c> like</c><00:23:05.200><c> I</c><00:23:05.240><c> always</c>

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for people to Shopify, like I always
 

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for people to Shopify, like I always
said<00:23:05.680><c> to</c><00:23:05.760><c> the</c><00:23:05.880><c> clients</c><00:23:06.360><c> like</c><00:23:06.600><c> you</c><00:23:07.160><c> your</c><00:23:07.320><c> best</c>

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said to the clients like you your best
 

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said to the clients like you your best
opportunity<00:23:08.360><c> to</c><00:23:08.560><c> have</c><00:23:08.760><c> clean</c><00:23:09.080><c> data</c><00:23:09.480><c> is</c><00:23:09.640><c> day</c>

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opportunity to have clean data is day
 

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opportunity to have clean data is day
one<00:23:10.400><c> because</c><00:23:10.960><c> if</c><00:23:11.120><c> it's</c><00:23:11.240><c> not</c><00:23:11.440><c> clean</c><00:23:11.680><c> on</c><00:23:11.800><c> day</c>

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one because if it's not clean on day
 

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one because if it's not clean on day
one,<00:23:12.560><c> it's</c><00:23:12.720><c> going</c><00:23:12.880><c> to</c><00:23:12.960><c> be</c><00:23:13.120><c> shot</c><00:23:13.560><c> in</c><00:23:13.720><c> 3</c><00:23:14.000><c> years</c>

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one, it's going to be shot in 3 years
 

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one, it's going to be shot in 3 years
time<00:23:14.560><c> when</c><00:23:14.760><c> you</c><00:23:14.880><c> get</c><00:23:15.080><c> to</c><00:23:15.160><c> your</c><00:23:15.280><c> next</c>

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time when you get to your next
 

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time when you get to your next
re-platform<00:23:16.960><c> or</c><00:23:17.080><c> rebuild</c><00:23:17.560><c> journey.</c><00:23:18.040><c> So,</c>

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re-platform or rebuild journey. So,
 

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re-platform or rebuild journey. So,
yeah,<00:23:18.840><c> how</c><00:23:19.040><c> do</c><00:23:19.160><c> you</c><00:23:19.280><c> navigate</c><00:23:19.840><c> people</c><00:23:20.240><c> like</c>

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yeah, how do you navigate people like
 

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yeah, how do you navigate people like
who've<00:23:20.640><c> got</c><00:23:20.960><c> all</c><00:23:21.120><c> this</c><00:23:21.400><c> rich</c><00:23:21.760><c> data</c><00:23:22.520><c> and</c><00:23:22.920><c> have</c>

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who've got all this rich data and have
 

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who've got all this rich data and have
yeah,<00:23:23.480><c> third-party</c><00:23:24.240><c> sources</c><00:23:24.840><c> like</c><00:23:25.040><c> you</c>

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yeah, third-party sources like you
 

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yeah, third-party sources like you
you're<00:23:25.560><c> still</c><00:23:25.760><c> going</c><00:23:25.880><c> to</c><00:23:25.960><c> have</c><00:23:26.040><c> marketing</c>

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you're still going to have marketing
 

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you're still going to have marketing
platforms<00:23:27.160><c> that</c><00:23:27.280><c> are</c><00:23:27.400><c> doing</c><00:23:27.720><c> stuff</c><00:23:28.000><c> for</c><00:23:28.240><c> you</c>

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platforms that are doing stuff for you
 

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platforms that are doing stuff for you
and<00:23:28.600><c> your</c><00:23:28.840><c> e-com</c><00:23:29.240><c> platform</c><00:23:29.760><c> and</c><00:23:29.960><c> POS</c><00:23:30.160><c> system,</c>

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and your e-com platform and POS system,
 

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and your e-com platform and POS system,
whatever.<00:23:31.240><c> Like</c><00:23:31.400><c> how</c><00:23:31.640><c> how</c><00:23:31.840><c> do</c><00:23:31.960><c> you</c><00:23:32.040><c> help</c>

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whatever. Like how how do you help
 

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whatever. Like how how do you help
people<00:23:32.560><c> navigate</c><00:23:33.080><c> that</c><00:23:33.240><c> and</c><00:23:33.360><c> what</c><00:23:33.480><c> can</c><00:23:33.600><c> they</c>

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people navigate that and what can they
 

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people navigate that and what can they
do<00:23:33.960><c> to</c><00:23:34.080><c> actually</c><00:23:35.000><c> keep</c><00:23:35.400><c> their</c><00:23:35.560><c> database</c><00:23:36.200><c> to</c><00:23:36.320><c> be</c>

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do to actually keep their database to be
 

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do to actually keep their database to be
what<00:23:37.280><c> they</c>

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what they
 

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what they
want<00:23:38.360><c> their</c><00:23:38.480><c> data</c><00:23:38.920><c> to</c><00:23:39.000><c> be.</c><00:23:39.440><c> Yeah.</c>

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want their data to be. Yeah.
 

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want their data to be. Yeah.
&gt;&gt; Look,<00:23:40.360><c> I</c><00:23:40.520><c> think</c><00:23:41.000><c> plugging</c><00:23:41.320><c> in</c><00:23:41.400><c> a</c><00:23:41.440><c> lot</c><00:23:41.680><c> of</c>

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&gt;&gt; Look, I think plugging in a lot of
 

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&gt;&gt; Look, I think plugging in a lot of
little<00:23:42.120><c> best-of-breed</c><00:23:42.720><c> tools</c><00:23:43.000><c> sometimes</c><00:23:43.520><c> can</c>

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little best-of-breed tools sometimes can
 

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little best-of-breed tools sometimes can
be<00:23:44.240><c> it</c><00:23:44.320><c> can</c><00:23:44.440><c> help</c><00:23:44.680><c> with</c><00:23:44.880><c> achieve</c><00:23:45.160><c> a</c><00:23:45.200><c> strategy</c>

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be it can help with achieve a strategy
 

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be it can help with achieve a strategy
but<00:23:45.760><c> can</c><00:23:45.920><c> create</c><00:23:46.120><c> a</c><00:23:46.160><c> lot</c><00:23:46.320><c> of</c><00:23:46.400><c> noise</c><00:23:46.720><c> and</c><00:23:46.840><c> mess</c>

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but can create a lot of noise and mess
 

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but can create a lot of noise and mess
as<00:23:47.600><c> you</c><00:23:47.680><c> probably</c><00:23:47.960><c> know.</c>

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as you probably know.
 

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as you probably know.
And<00:23:49.720><c> yeah,</c><00:23:50.160><c> the</c><00:23:50.760><c> the</c><00:23:50.920><c> prevalence</c><00:23:51.360><c> of</c>

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And yeah, the the prevalence of
 

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And yeah, the the prevalence of
especially<00:23:52.400><c> in</c><00:23:52.480><c> Shopify</c><00:23:52.880><c> ecosystem</c><00:23:53.400><c> of</c>

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especially in Shopify ecosystem of
 

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especially in Shopify ecosystem of
little<00:23:53.760><c> apps</c><00:23:54.040><c> that</c><00:23:54.200><c> all</c><00:23:54.360><c> create</c><00:23:54.600><c> a</c><00:23:54.640><c> new</c>

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little apps that all create a new
 

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little apps that all create a new
customer<00:23:55.120><c> experience</c><00:23:56.160><c> is</c><00:23:56.320><c> sort</c><00:23:56.520><c> of</c><00:23:57.280><c> great</c>

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customer experience is sort of great
 

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customer experience is sort of great
solution<00:23:57.960><c> to</c><00:23:58.040><c> some</c><00:23:58.240><c> problems</c><00:23:58.560><c> but</c><00:23:58.680><c> it</c><00:23:58.760><c> creates</c>

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solution to some problems but it creates
 

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solution to some problems but it creates
other<00:23:59.200><c> problems.</c>

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other problems.
 

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other problems.
I<00:24:00.840><c> would</c><00:24:01.120><c> like</c><00:24:01.280><c> the</c><00:24:01.400><c> one</c><00:24:01.640><c> tip</c><00:24:01.880><c> I</c><00:24:01.920><c> would</c><00:24:02.080><c> give</c><00:24:02.280><c> is</c>

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I would like the one tip I would give is
 

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I would like the one tip I would give is
make<00:24:02.800><c> the</c><00:24:02.920><c> customer</c><00:24:03.440><c> part</c><00:24:04.200><c> of</c><00:24:04.360><c> the</c><00:24:04.440><c> solution.</c>

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make the customer part of the solution.
 

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make the customer part of the solution.
&gt;&gt; Mhm.

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&gt;&gt; Mhm.
 

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&gt;&gt; Mhm.
&gt;&gt; Like<00:24:06.600><c> I</c><00:24:06.760><c> I</c><00:24:06.800><c> think</c><00:24:07.000><c> we</c><00:24:07.080><c> spend</c><00:24:07.400><c> so</c><00:24:07.680><c> much</c><00:24:07.920><c> time</c>

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&gt;&gt; Like I I think we spend so much time
 

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&gt;&gt; Like I I think we spend so much time
trying<00:24:08.840><c> to</c><00:24:09.320><c> stitch</c><00:24:09.600><c> together</c><00:24:09.960><c> identities</c><00:24:10.680><c> and</c>

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trying to stitch together identities and
 

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trying to stitch together identities and
do<00:24:10.920><c> all</c><00:24:11.040><c> this</c><00:24:11.240><c> work</c><00:24:11.800><c> in</c><00:24:12.120><c> secret</c><00:24:12.720><c> without</c>

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do all this work in secret without
 

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do all this work in secret without
including<00:24:13.600><c> the</c><00:24:13.680><c> customer.</c><00:24:14.320><c> So,</c><00:24:14.520><c> my</c>

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including the customer. So, my
 

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including the customer. So, my
&gt;&gt; Yeah.

00:24:15.510 --> 00:24:15.520 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Yeah.
 

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&gt;&gt; Yeah.
&gt;&gt; my<00:24:15.800><c> biggest</c><00:24:16.120><c> thing</c><00:24:16.280><c> is</c><00:24:16.480><c> log</c><00:24:16.720><c> in,</c><00:24:16.840><c> who</c><00:24:17.040><c> are</c><00:24:17.160><c> you?</c>

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&gt;&gt; my biggest thing is log in, who are you?
 

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&gt;&gt; my biggest thing is log in, who are you?
This<00:24:17.600><c> is</c><00:24:17.640><c> what</c><00:24:17.760><c> we</c><00:24:17.840><c> know</c><00:24:18.000><c> about</c><00:24:18.240><c> you,</c><00:24:18.360><c> is</c><00:24:18.480><c> it</c>

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This is what we know about you, is it
 

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This is what we know about you, is it
right?<00:24:19.080><c> Do</c><00:24:19.160><c> you</c><00:24:19.240><c> want</c><00:24:19.360><c> to</c><00:24:19.440><c> keep</c><00:24:19.680><c> any</c><00:24:19.880><c> of</c><00:24:19.920><c> this?</c>

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right? Do you want to keep any of this?
 

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right? Do you want to keep any of this?
Do<00:24:20.360><c> you</c><00:24:20.480><c> like</c><00:24:20.760><c> what</c><00:24:20.920><c> don't</c><00:24:21.120><c> you</c><00:24:21.200><c> care</c><00:24:21.480><c> about?</c>

00:24:22.190 --> 00:24:22.200 align:start position:0%
Do you like what don't you care about?
 

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Do you like what don't you care about?
And<00:24:22.280><c> if</c><00:24:22.360><c> you</c><00:24:22.400><c> don't</c><00:24:22.600><c> engage</c><00:24:23.040><c> then</c>

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And if you don't engage then
 

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And if you don't engage then
they<00:24:24.520><c> say</c><00:24:24.720><c> data</c><00:24:25.160><c> is</c><00:24:25.800><c> is</c><00:24:26.000><c> oil</c><00:24:26.320><c> but</c><00:24:26.440><c> it's</c><00:24:26.560><c> also</c>

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they say data is is oil but it's also
 

00:24:26.840 --> 00:24:28.470 align:start position:0%
they say data is is oil but it's also
toxic<00:24:27.200><c> waste.</c><00:24:27.600><c> So,</c><00:24:27.760><c> you</c><00:24:27.800><c> got</c><00:24:27.880><c> to</c><00:24:27.960><c> be</c><00:24:28.040><c> careful</c>

00:24:28.470 --> 00:24:28.480 align:start position:0%
toxic waste. So, you got to be careful
 

00:24:28.480 --> 00:24:30.470 align:start position:0%
toxic waste. So, you got to be careful
on<00:24:28.520><c> what</c><00:24:28.680><c> you</c><00:24:28.760><c> keep.</c><00:24:29.120><c> So,</c><00:24:30.040><c> we</c><00:24:30.160><c> have</c><00:24:30.320><c> some</c>

00:24:30.470 --> 00:24:30.480 align:start position:0%
on what you keep. So, we have some
 

00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:32.390 align:start position:0%
on what you keep. So, we have some
brands<00:24:30.800><c> that</c><00:24:30.920><c> if</c><00:24:31.040><c> you</c><00:24:31.120><c> don't</c><00:24:31.840><c> if</c><00:24:31.960><c> you</c><00:24:32.080><c> opted</c>

00:24:32.390 --> 00:24:32.400 align:start position:0%
brands that if you don't if you opted
 

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brands that if you don't if you opted
out<00:24:32.560><c> and</c><00:24:32.640><c> you</c><00:24:32.720><c> haven't</c><00:24:32.960><c> bought</c><00:24:33.160><c> for</c><00:24:33.280><c> a</c><00:24:33.320><c> few</c>

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out and you haven't bought for a few
 

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out and you haven't bought for a few
years,<00:24:34.040><c> just</c><00:24:34.240><c> delete</c><00:24:34.520><c> the</c><00:24:34.640><c> whole</c><00:24:34.920><c> all</c>

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years, just delete the whole all
 

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years, just delete the whole all
account.<00:24:35.480><c> We</c><00:24:35.560><c> keep</c><00:24:35.800><c> the</c>

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account. We keep the
 

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account. We keep the
the<00:24:36.760><c> depersonalized</c><00:24:37.560><c> history</c><00:24:38.000><c> so</c><00:24:38.160><c> you</c><00:24:38.240><c> got</c>

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the depersonalized history so you got
 

00:24:38.400 --> 00:24:39.710 align:start position:0%
the depersonalized history so you got
some<00:24:38.560><c> metrics.</c>

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some metrics.
 

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some metrics.
But<00:24:39.800><c> if</c><00:24:39.880><c> the</c><00:24:39.920><c> customer</c><00:24:40.240><c> comes</c><00:24:40.480><c> back</c><00:24:40.640><c> and</c><00:24:40.760><c> joins</c>

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But if the customer comes back and joins
 

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But if the customer comes back and joins
again,<00:24:41.240><c> they</c><00:24:41.360><c> join</c><00:24:41.640><c> fresh</c><00:24:42.200><c> and</c><00:24:42.400><c> that's</c><00:24:43.120><c> you</c>

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again, they join fresh and that's you
 

00:24:43.200 --> 00:24:44.550 align:start position:0%
again, they join fresh and that's you
know,<00:24:43.320><c> they</c><00:24:43.600><c> haven't</c><00:24:43.880><c> touched</c><00:24:44.080><c> the</c><00:24:44.160><c> brand</c><00:24:44.480><c> for</c>

00:24:44.550 --> 00:24:44.560 align:start position:0%
know, they haven't touched the brand for
 

00:24:44.560 --> 00:24:46.670 align:start position:0%
know, they haven't touched the brand for
two<00:24:44.720><c> or</c><00:24:44.800><c> three</c><00:24:45.080><c> years,</c><00:24:45.440><c> don't</c><00:24:45.680><c> keep</c><00:24:45.920><c> them</c><00:24:46.560><c> for</c>

00:24:46.670 --> 00:24:46.680 align:start position:0%
two or three years, don't keep them for
 

00:24:46.680 --> 00:24:48.510 align:start position:0%
two or three years, don't keep them for
the<00:24:46.760><c> sake</c><00:24:47.040><c> of</c><00:24:47.160><c> it.</c><00:24:47.400><c> So,</c>

00:24:48.510 --> 00:24:48.520 align:start position:0%
the sake of it. So,
 

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the sake of it. So,
whereas<00:24:48.840><c> we</c><00:24:49.000><c> find</c><00:24:49.480><c> if</c><00:24:49.680><c> I</c><00:24:49.800><c> as</c><00:24:49.920><c> a</c><00:24:49.960><c> customer</c><00:24:50.400><c> can</c>

00:24:50.550 --> 00:24:50.560 align:start position:0%
whereas we find if I as a customer can
 

00:24:50.560 --> 00:24:52.590 align:start position:0%
whereas we find if I as a customer can
see<00:24:50.800><c> all</c><00:24:51.040><c> of</c><00:24:51.120><c> my</c><00:24:51.240><c> transaction</c><00:24:51.840><c> history,</c><00:24:52.360><c> yeah,</c>

00:24:52.590 --> 00:24:52.600 align:start position:0%
see all of my transaction history, yeah,
 

00:24:52.600 --> 00:24:54.190 align:start position:0%
see all of my transaction history, yeah,
maybe<00:24:52.880><c> for</c><00:24:53.040><c> decades</c><00:24:53.600><c> for</c><00:24:53.680><c> some</c><00:24:53.800><c> of</c><00:24:53.880><c> the</c><00:24:53.920><c> brands</c>

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maybe for decades for some of the brands
 

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maybe for decades for some of the brands
we<00:24:54.360><c> work</c><00:24:54.560><c> with</c><00:24:54.680><c> we've</c><00:24:54.760><c> got</c><00:24:55.040><c> 17</c><00:24:55.520><c> years</c><00:24:55.680><c> of</c>

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we work with we've got 17 years of
 

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we work with we've got 17 years of
history<00:24:56.080><c> for</c><00:24:56.200><c> some</c><00:24:56.400><c> of</c><00:24:56.440><c> the</c><00:24:56.520><c> brands.</c>

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history for some of the brands.
 

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history for some of the brands.
Then<00:24:58.040><c> I</c><00:24:58.200><c> as</c><00:24:58.280><c> a</c><00:24:58.360><c> customer,</c><00:24:58.880><c> it's</c><00:24:59.040><c> my</c><00:24:59.280><c> asset.</c>

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Then I as a customer, it's my asset.
 

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Then I as a customer, it's my asset.
Like<00:24:59.960><c> that's</c><00:25:00.120><c> my</c><00:25:00.280><c> profile</c><00:25:01.120><c> like</c><00:25:01.520><c> and</c><00:25:01.960><c> that's</c>

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Like that's my profile like and that's
 

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Like that's my profile like and that's
my<00:25:02.440><c> home</c><00:25:02.640><c> address</c><00:25:03.000><c> and</c><00:25:03.080><c> it's</c><00:25:03.160><c> not</c><00:25:03.320><c> correct.</c>

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my home address and it's not correct.
 

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my home address and it's not correct.
It's<00:25:03.840><c> in</c><00:25:03.960><c> my</c><00:25:04.160><c> interest</c><00:25:04.560><c> to</c><00:25:04.680><c> keep</c><00:25:04.920><c> it</c><00:25:05.040><c> all</c>

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It's in my interest to keep it all
 

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It's in my interest to keep it all
up-to-date.<00:25:06.240><c> So</c><00:25:06.440><c> make</c><00:25:06.760><c> it</c><00:25:07.040><c> in</c><00:25:07.200><c> my</c><00:25:07.480><c> interest</c><00:25:08.440><c> to</c>

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up-to-date. So make it in my interest to
 

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up-to-date. So make it in my interest to
look<00:25:09.040><c> and</c><00:25:09.200><c> keep</c><00:25:09.400><c> my</c><00:25:09.560><c> profile</c><00:25:10.000><c> clean</c><00:25:10.400><c> and</c><00:25:10.600><c> great</c>

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look and keep my profile clean and great
 

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look and keep my profile clean and great
all<00:25:11.080><c> my</c>

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all my
 

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all my
relatives<00:25:12.480><c> birth</c><00:25:12.760><c> dates</c><00:25:13.040><c> because</c><00:25:13.320><c> it's</c><00:25:13.440><c> a</c>

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relatives birth dates because it's a
 

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relatives birth dates because it's a
gifting<00:25:13.880><c> type</c><00:25:14.120><c> brand</c><00:25:14.480><c> or</c><00:25:14.520><c> whatever</c><00:25:14.840><c> else</c><00:25:15.040><c> or</c>

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gifting type brand or whatever else or
 

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gifting type brand or whatever else or
my<00:25:15.320><c> size</c><00:25:15.680><c> information.</c>

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my size information.
 

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my size information.
If<00:25:17.200><c> you</c><00:25:17.320><c> If</c><00:25:17.440><c> it's</c><00:25:17.600><c> in</c><00:25:17.720><c> my</c><00:25:17.880><c> interest</c><00:25:18.200><c> to</c><00:25:18.280><c> keep</c>

00:25:18.430 --> 00:25:18.440 align:start position:0%
If you If it's in my interest to keep
 

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If you If it's in my interest to keep
the<00:25:18.520><c> data</c><00:25:19.360><c> clean,</c><00:25:20.120><c> then</c><00:25:20.320><c> I</c><00:25:20.400><c> will.</c><00:25:20.880><c> And</c><00:25:21.040><c> then</c>

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the data clean, then I will. And then
 

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the data clean, then I will. And then
for<00:25:21.320><c> brands</c><00:25:21.760><c> for</c><00:25:21.920><c> customers</c><00:25:22.320><c> that</c><00:25:22.440><c> don't</c><00:25:22.760><c> care</c>

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for brands for customers that don't care
 

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for brands for customers that don't care
to<00:25:23.200><c> keep</c><00:25:23.400><c> their</c><00:25:23.520><c> data</c><00:25:23.800><c> clean,</c><00:25:24.080><c> then</c><00:25:24.200><c> don't</c>

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to keep their data clean, then don't
 

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to keep their data clean, then don't
worry<00:25:24.640><c> about</c><00:25:24.880><c> cleaning</c><00:25:25.200><c> their</c><00:25:25.360><c> data.</c><00:25:25.680><c> Don't</c>

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worry about cleaning their data. Don't
 

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worry about cleaning their data. Don't
Don't<00:25:26.800><c> blow</c><00:25:27.080><c> a</c><00:25:27.120><c> whole</c><00:25:27.320><c> lot</c><00:25:27.440><c> of</c><00:25:27.560><c> your</c><00:25:27.680><c> time</c><00:25:27.920><c> and</c>

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Don't blow a whole lot of your time and
 

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Don't blow a whole lot of your time and
money<00:25:28.280><c> and</c><00:25:28.400><c> effort</c><00:25:28.640><c> trying</c><00:25:28.840><c> to</c><00:25:28.880><c> clean</c><00:25:29.160><c> data</c>

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money and effort trying to clean data
 

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money and effort trying to clean data
that<00:25:29.520><c> doesn't</c><00:25:29.800><c> matter</c><00:25:30.080><c> anyway.</c><00:25:30.520><c> So</c><00:25:30.840><c> you</c><00:25:30.960><c> sort</c>

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that doesn't matter anyway. So you sort
 

00:25:31.160 --> 00:25:33.430 align:start position:0%
that doesn't matter anyway. So you sort
of<00:25:31.240><c> focus</c><00:25:31.600><c> on</c><00:25:31.720><c> what</c><00:25:31.880><c> matters</c><00:25:32.960><c> cuz</c><00:25:33.240><c> you</c><00:25:33.320><c> know,</c>

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of focus on what matters cuz you know,
 

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of focus on what matters cuz you know,
resources<00:25:34.040><c> are</c><00:25:34.320><c> are</c><00:25:34.400><c> finite.</c><00:25:35.040><c> So</c><00:25:35.120><c> that's</c><00:25:35.320><c> the</c>

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resources are are finite. So that's the
 

00:25:35.760 --> 00:25:37.710 align:start position:0%
resources are are finite. So that's the
So<00:25:35.920><c> you</c><00:25:36.040><c> can</c><00:25:36.720><c> Here's</c><00:25:36.960><c> our</c><00:25:37.080><c> good</c><00:25:37.360><c> golden</c>

00:25:37.710 --> 00:25:37.720 align:start position:0%
So you can Here's our good golden
 

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So you can Here's our good golden
records<00:25:38.080><c> that</c><00:25:38.200><c> we</c><00:25:38.280><c> can</c><00:25:38.400><c> trust</c><00:25:39.040><c> and</c><00:25:39.120><c> the</c>

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records that we can trust and the
 

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records that we can trust and the
customers<00:25:39.720><c> are</c><00:25:39.800><c> engaged</c><00:25:40.200><c> with</c><00:25:40.400><c> and</c><00:25:40.480><c> can</c><00:25:40.600><c> see</c>

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customers are engaged with and can see
 

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customers are engaged with and can see
them<00:25:41.040><c> looking</c><00:25:41.320><c> at</c><00:25:41.440><c> it</c><00:25:41.640><c> and</c><00:25:41.720><c> they</c><00:25:41.800><c> go,</c><00:25:41.960><c> "Yep,</c>

00:25:42.270 --> 00:25:42.280 align:start position:0%
them looking at it and they go, "Yep,
 

00:25:42.280 --> 00:25:43.750 align:start position:0%
them looking at it and they go, "Yep,
that's<00:25:42.520><c> me."</c>

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that's me."
 

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that's me."
Then<00:25:43.920><c> that's</c><00:25:44.240><c> what</c><00:25:44.400><c> I'd</c><00:25:44.520><c> focus</c><00:25:44.880><c> on</c><00:25:45.080><c> and</c><00:25:45.200><c> then</c>

00:25:45.270 --> 00:25:45.280 align:start position:0%
Then that's what I'd focus on and then
 

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Then that's what I'd focus on and then
don't<00:25:45.520><c> worry</c><00:25:45.800><c> too</c><00:25:46.120><c> much</c><00:25:46.360><c> about</c><00:25:47.040><c> the</c><00:25:47.280><c> sort</c><00:25:47.440><c> of</c>

00:25:47.510 --> 00:25:47.520 align:start position:0%
don't worry too much about the sort of
 

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don't worry too much about the sort of
long<00:25:47.800><c> tail</c><00:25:48.120><c> of</c><00:25:48.200><c> scrappy</c><00:25:48.560><c> data.</c><00:25:48.880><c> Just</c><00:25:49.080><c> let</c><00:25:49.240><c> it</c>

00:25:49.590 --> 00:25:49.600 align:start position:0%
long tail of scrappy data. Just let it
 

00:25:49.600 --> 00:25:51.750 align:start position:0%
long tail of scrappy data. Just let it
sort<00:25:49.800><c> of</c><00:25:49.880><c> dissolve</c><00:25:50.360><c> and</c><00:25:50.480><c> disappear</c><00:25:51.280><c> and</c><00:25:51.440><c> prune</c>

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sort of dissolve and disappear and prune
 

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sort of dissolve and disappear and prune
it<00:25:51.880><c> off</c><00:25:52.040><c> quickly.</c>

00:25:53.150 --> 00:25:53.160 align:start position:0%
it off quickly.
 

00:25:53.160 --> 00:25:55.350 align:start position:0%
it off quickly.
&gt;&gt; Yeah,<00:25:53.560><c> data</c><00:25:53.920><c> is</c><00:25:54.080><c> oil</c><00:25:54.320><c> but</c><00:25:54.440><c> it's</c><00:25:54.600><c> also</c><00:25:54.920><c> toxic</c>

00:25:55.350 --> 00:25:55.360 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Yeah, data is oil but it's also toxic
 

00:25:55.360 --> 00:25:56.710 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Yeah, data is oil but it's also toxic
waste.<00:25:55.600><c> I've</c><00:25:55.720><c> just</c><00:25:55.960><c> written</c><00:25:56.200><c> that</c><00:25:56.360><c> down</c><00:25:56.600><c> as</c>

00:25:56.710 --> 00:25:56.720 align:start position:0%
waste. I've just written that down as
 

00:25:56.720 --> 00:25:58.030 align:start position:0%
waste. I've just written that down as
that's<00:25:56.960><c> going</c><00:25:57.080><c> to</c><00:25:57.160><c> be</c><00:25:57.200><c> the</c><00:25:57.280><c> headlines</c><00:25:57.840><c> of</c><00:25:57.920><c> this</c>

00:25:58.030 --> 00:25:58.040 align:start position:0%
that's going to be the headlines of this
 

00:25:58.040 --> 00:25:59.710 align:start position:0%
that's going to be the headlines of this
episode.<00:25:58.520><c> I</c><00:25:58.560><c> like</c><00:25:58.800><c> that.</c><00:25:59.360><c> Um</c>

00:25:59.710 --> 00:25:59.720 align:start position:0%
episode. I like that. Um
 

00:25:59.720 --> 00:26:00.670 align:start position:0%
episode. I like that. Um
&gt;&gt; Yeah,<00:25:59.920><c> it</c><00:26:00.000><c> goes</c><00:26:00.120><c> without</c><00:26:00.320><c> saying</c><00:26:00.440><c> as</c><00:26:00.520><c> these</c>

00:26:00.670 --> 00:26:00.680 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Yeah, it goes without saying as these
 

00:26:00.680 --> 00:26:02.310 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Yeah, it goes without saying as these
privacy<00:26:01.040><c> laws</c><00:26:01.240><c> change,</c><00:26:01.600><c> I</c><00:26:01.640><c> think</c><00:26:01.960><c> everyone's</c>

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privacy laws change, I think everyone's
 

00:26:02.320 --> 00:26:04.190 align:start position:0%
privacy laws change, I think everyone's
going<00:26:02.440><c> to</c><00:26:02.520><c> start</c><00:26:03.120><c> thinking</c><00:26:03.560><c> carefully</c><00:26:03.960><c> about</c>

00:26:04.190 --> 00:26:04.200 align:start position:0%
going to start thinking carefully about
 

00:26:04.200 --> 00:26:05.910 align:start position:0%
going to start thinking carefully about
the<00:26:04.320><c> data</c><00:26:04.560><c> they</c><00:26:04.680><c> choose</c><00:26:04.920><c> to</c><00:26:05.040><c> keep.</c>

00:26:05.910 --> 00:26:05.920 align:start position:0%
the data they choose to keep.
 

00:26:05.920 --> 00:26:08.270 align:start position:0%
the data they choose to keep.
&gt;&gt; Yeah,<00:26:06.280><c> no,</c><00:26:06.520><c> absolutely.</c><00:26:07.320><c> And</c><00:26:07.520><c> um</c><00:26:08.040><c> and</c><00:26:08.160><c> the</c>

00:26:08.270 --> 00:26:08.280 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Yeah, no, absolutely. And um and the
 

00:26:08.280 --> 00:26:10.550 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Yeah, no, absolutely. And um and the
last<00:26:08.600><c> topic</c><00:26:08.880><c> I</c><00:26:08.920><c> wanted</c><00:26:09.200><c> to</c><00:26:09.320><c> hit</c><00:26:09.520><c> you</c><00:26:09.640><c> up</c><00:26:09.800><c> on</c><00:26:10.160><c> was</c>

00:26:10.550 --> 00:26:10.560 align:start position:0%
last topic I wanted to hit you up on was
 

00:26:10.560 --> 00:26:12.630 align:start position:0%
last topic I wanted to hit you up on was
loyalty<00:26:11.120><c> cuz</c><00:26:11.320><c> I</c><00:26:11.360><c> think</c><00:26:11.600><c> that's</c><00:26:11.880><c> a</c><00:26:11.920><c> space</c><00:26:12.480><c> that</c>

00:26:12.630 --> 00:26:12.640 align:start position:0%
loyalty cuz I think that's a space that
 

00:26:12.640 --> 00:26:15.550 align:start position:0%
loyalty cuz I think that's a space that
I<00:26:12.680><c> think</c><00:26:13.440><c> um</c><00:26:13.680><c> has</c><00:26:14.320><c> Yeah,</c><00:26:14.760><c> it's</c><00:26:14.920><c> become</c><00:26:15.320><c> pretty</c>

00:26:15.550 --> 00:26:15.560 align:start position:0%
I think um has Yeah, it's become pretty
 

00:26:15.560 --> 00:26:17.230 align:start position:0%
I think um has Yeah, it's become pretty
stale,<00:26:16.080><c> I</c><00:26:16.120><c> think.</c><00:26:16.400><c> And</c><00:26:16.480><c> people</c><00:26:16.800><c> starting</c><00:26:17.120><c> to</c>

00:26:17.230 --> 00:26:17.240 align:start position:0%
stale, I think. And people starting to
 

00:26:17.240 --> 00:26:18.830 align:start position:0%
stale, I think. And people starting to
do<00:26:17.320><c> new</c><00:26:17.520><c> stuff</c><00:26:17.840><c> and</c><00:26:17.920><c> trying</c><00:26:18.280><c> new</c><00:26:18.440><c> stuff</c><00:26:18.720><c> but</c>

00:26:18.830 --> 00:26:18.840 align:start position:0%
do new stuff and trying new stuff but
 

00:26:18.840 --> 00:26:20.790 align:start position:0%
do new stuff and trying new stuff but
like<00:26:19.040><c> I</c><00:26:19.240><c> I</c><00:26:19.320><c> see</c><00:26:19.560><c> just</c><00:26:19.760><c> like</c><00:26:19.880><c> the</c><00:26:20.000><c> points-based</c>

00:26:20.790 --> 00:26:20.800 align:start position:0%
like I I see just like the points-based
 

00:26:20.800 --> 00:26:24.310 align:start position:0%
like I I see just like the points-based
loyalty<00:26:21.280><c> system</c><00:26:22.240><c> is</c><00:26:22.440><c> kind</c><00:26:22.800><c> of</c><00:26:23.320><c> it</c><00:26:23.520><c> it's</c><00:26:24.120><c> it's</c>

00:26:24.310 --> 00:26:24.320 align:start position:0%
loyalty system is kind of it it's it's
 

00:26:24.320 --> 00:26:26.750 align:start position:0%
loyalty system is kind of it it's it's
struggling<00:26:24.920><c> and</c><00:26:25.280><c> even</c><00:26:25.600><c> the</c><00:26:25.680><c> ones</c><00:26:26.000><c> that</c><00:26:26.440><c> have</c>

00:26:26.750 --> 00:26:26.760 align:start position:0%
struggling and even the ones that have
 

00:26:26.760 --> 00:26:28.710 align:start position:0%
struggling and even the ones that have
been<00:26:27.240><c> the</c><00:26:27.480><c> the</c><00:26:27.640><c> beacons</c><00:26:28.120><c> of</c><00:26:28.240><c> hope,</c><00:26:28.520><c> the</c>

00:26:28.710 --> 00:26:28.720 align:start position:0%
been the the beacons of hope, the
 

00:26:28.720 --> 00:26:31.350 align:start position:0%
been the the beacons of hope, the
Quantases<00:26:29.400><c> and</c><00:26:29.560><c> stuff</c><00:26:29.920><c> and</c><00:26:30.520><c> and</c><00:26:30.800><c> Virgin</c><00:26:31.240><c> and</c>

00:26:31.350 --> 00:26:31.360 align:start position:0%
Quantases and stuff and and Virgin and
 

00:26:31.360 --> 00:26:33.190 align:start position:0%
Quantases and stuff and and Virgin and
airlines<00:26:31.880><c> like</c><00:26:32.000><c> they're</c><00:26:32.200><c> the</c><00:26:32.280><c> ones</c><00:26:32.480><c> that</c><00:26:32.600><c> have</c>

00:26:33.190 --> 00:26:33.200 align:start position:0%
airlines like they're the ones that have
 

00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:34.750 align:start position:0%
airlines like they're the ones that have
had<00:26:33.440><c> those</c><00:26:33.680><c> programs</c><00:26:34.160><c> that</c><00:26:34.240><c> have</c><00:26:34.320><c> been</c><00:26:34.560><c> so</c>

00:26:34.750 --> 00:26:34.760 align:start position:0%
had those programs that have been so
 

00:26:34.760 --> 00:26:36.470 align:start position:0%
had those programs that have been so
compelling<00:26:35.320><c> for</c><00:26:35.440><c> so</c><00:26:35.640><c> long</c><00:26:35.960><c> that</c><00:26:36.120><c> people</c><00:26:36.400><c> are</c>

00:26:36.470 --> 00:26:36.480 align:start position:0%
compelling for so long that people are
 

00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:38.190 align:start position:0%
compelling for so long that people are
starting<00:26:36.840><c> to</c><00:26:36.960><c> even</c><00:26:37.200><c> lose</c><00:26:37.480><c> faith</c><00:26:37.760><c> in</c><00:26:37.880><c> those</c>

00:26:38.190 --> 00:26:38.200 align:start position:0%
starting to even lose faith in those
 

00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:40.870 align:start position:0%
starting to even lose faith in those
now.<00:26:38.560><c> So</c><00:26:39.240><c> So</c><00:26:39.400><c> what</c><00:26:39.600><c> does</c><00:26:40.120><c> Yeah,</c><00:26:40.320><c> what</c><00:26:40.720><c> is</c><00:26:40.800><c> a</c>

00:26:40.870 --> 00:26:40.880 align:start position:0%
now. So So what does Yeah, what is a
 

00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:43.270 align:start position:0%
now. So So what does Yeah, what is a
good<00:26:41.040><c> loyalty</c><00:26:41.480><c> program</c><00:26:41.920><c> look</c><00:26:42.120><c> like</c><00:26:42.320><c> now?</c>

00:26:43.270 --> 00:26:43.280 align:start position:0%
good loyalty program look like now?
 

00:26:43.280 --> 00:26:45.350 align:start position:0%
good loyalty program look like now?
&gt;&gt; Yeah,<00:26:43.480><c> look,</c><00:26:44.000><c> I</c><00:26:44.120><c> I'd</c><00:26:44.280><c> use</c><00:26:44.480><c> the</c><00:26:44.560><c> whole</c><00:26:44.960><c> help</c><00:26:45.200><c> us</c>

00:26:45.350 --> 00:26:45.360 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Yeah, look, I I'd use the whole help us
 

00:26:45.360 --> 00:26:47.510 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Yeah, look, I I'd use the whole help us
sell<00:26:45.600><c> help</c><00:26:45.800><c> them</c><00:26:45.960><c> shop</c><00:26:46.520><c> mentality.</c><00:26:47.120><c> Like</c><00:26:47.400><c> is</c>

00:26:47.510 --> 00:26:47.520 align:start position:0%
sell help them shop mentality. Like is
 

00:26:47.520 --> 00:26:49.070 align:start position:0%
sell help them shop mentality. Like is
this<00:26:47.720><c> program</c><00:26:48.040><c> all</c><00:26:48.200><c> about</c><00:26:48.400><c> helping</c><00:26:48.680><c> us</c><00:26:48.800><c> sell</c>

00:26:49.070 --> 00:26:49.080 align:start position:0%
this program all about helping us sell
 

00:26:49.080 --> 00:26:50.430 align:start position:0%
this program all about helping us sell
or<00:26:49.200><c> is</c><00:26:49.280><c> it</c><00:26:49.360><c> about</c><00:26:49.520><c> helping</c><00:26:49.800><c> them</c><00:26:49.920><c> shop?</c><00:26:50.200><c> So</c>

00:26:50.430 --> 00:26:50.440 align:start position:0%
or is it about helping them shop? So
 

00:26:50.440 --> 00:26:52.150 align:start position:0%
or is it about helping them shop? So
just<00:26:50.920><c> check</c><00:26:51.200><c> yourself</c><00:26:51.560><c> on</c><00:26:51.680><c> those</c><00:26:51.880><c> things</c>

00:26:52.150 --> 00:26:52.160 align:start position:0%
just check yourself on those things
 

00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:54.350 align:start position:0%
just check yourself on those things
first.<00:26:53.040><c> The</c><00:26:53.320><c> The</c><00:26:53.440><c> sets</c><00:26:53.720><c> of</c><00:26:53.800><c> mechanics</c><00:26:54.280><c> are</c>

00:26:54.350 --> 00:26:54.360 align:start position:0%
first. The The sets of mechanics are
 

00:26:54.360 --> 00:26:55.910 align:start position:0%
first. The The sets of mechanics are
your<00:26:54.520><c> points,</c><00:26:54.960><c> tiers,</c><00:26:55.400><c> achievements,</c>

00:26:55.910 --> 00:26:55.920 align:start position:0%
your points, tiers, achievements,
 

00:26:55.920 --> 00:26:57.790 align:start position:0%
your points, tiers, achievements,
rewards,<00:26:56.400><c> benefits,</c><00:26:56.920><c> statuses.</c><00:26:57.560><c> They're</c><00:26:57.680><c> all</c>

00:26:57.790 --> 00:26:57.800 align:start position:0%
rewards, benefits, statuses. They're all
 

00:26:57.800 --> 00:26:59.030 align:start position:0%
rewards, benefits, statuses. They're all
the<00:26:57.880><c> sort</c><00:26:58.040><c> of</c><00:26:58.120><c> common</c><00:26:58.360><c> mechanics</c><00:26:58.840><c> that</c><00:26:58.920><c> we</c>

00:26:59.030 --> 00:26:59.040 align:start position:0%
the sort of common mechanics that we
 

00:26:59.040 --> 00:27:01.550 align:start position:0%
the sort of common mechanics that we
see.<00:26:59.800><c> I'd</c><00:26:59.920><c> be</c><00:27:00.040><c> really</c><00:27:00.280><c> careful</c><00:27:00.600><c> as</c><00:27:00.680><c> a</c><00:27:00.760><c> brand</c><00:27:01.320><c> if</c>

00:27:01.550 --> 00:27:01.560 align:start position:0%
see. I'd be really careful as a brand if
 

00:27:01.560 --> 00:27:03.750 align:start position:0%
see. I'd be really careful as a brand if
you<00:27:01.760><c> are</c><00:27:02.440><c> I</c><00:27:02.520><c> call</c><00:27:02.760><c> it</c><00:27:02.920><c> this</c><00:27:03.080><c> sort</c><00:27:03.200><c> of</c><00:27:03.280><c> continuum</c>

00:27:03.750 --> 00:27:03.760 align:start position:0%
you are I call it this sort of continuum
 

00:27:03.760 --> 00:27:06.070 align:start position:0%
you are I call it this sort of continuum
of<00:27:03.920><c> grudge</c><00:27:04.280><c> purchases</c><00:27:04.840><c> versus</c><00:27:05.480><c> discretionary</c>

00:27:06.070 --> 00:27:06.080 align:start position:0%
of grudge purchases versus discretionary
 

00:27:06.080 --> 00:27:07.550 align:start position:0%
of grudge purchases versus discretionary
or<00:27:06.240><c> enjoyment</c><00:27:06.680><c> purchases.</c><00:27:07.240><c> So,</c><00:27:07.320><c> if</c><00:27:07.400><c> I'm</c><00:27:07.480><c> a</c>

00:27:07.550 --> 00:27:07.560 align:start position:0%
or enjoyment purchases. So, if I'm a
 

00:27:07.560 --> 00:27:08.990 align:start position:0%
or enjoyment purchases. So, if I'm a
fashion<00:27:07.880><c> retail</c><00:27:08.160><c> brand,</c><00:27:08.480><c> I'm</c><00:27:08.560><c> sort</c><00:27:08.680><c> of</c><00:27:08.760><c> down</c>

00:27:08.990 --> 00:27:09.000 align:start position:0%
fashion retail brand, I'm sort of down
 

00:27:09.000 --> 00:27:11.950 align:start position:0%
fashion retail brand, I'm sort of down
here.<00:27:09.840><c> If</c><00:27:10.080><c> I'm</c><00:27:10.360><c> everyday</c><00:27:10.800><c> wear,</c><00:27:11.680><c> you</c><00:27:11.760><c> know,</c>

00:27:11.950 --> 00:27:11.960 align:start position:0%
here. If I'm everyday wear, you know,
 

00:27:11.960 --> 00:27:13.230 align:start position:0%
here. If I'm everyday wear, you know,
sort<00:27:12.200><c> of</c><00:27:12.400><c> I'm</c><00:27:12.520><c> probably</c><00:27:12.720><c> in</c><00:27:12.800><c> the</c><00:27:12.880><c> middle.</c><00:27:13.160><c> And</c>

00:27:13.230 --> 00:27:13.240 align:start position:0%
sort of I'm probably in the middle. And
 

00:27:13.240 --> 00:27:15.230 align:start position:0%
sort of I'm probably in the middle. And
if<00:27:13.400><c> I'm</c><00:27:13.600><c> a</c><00:27:13.720><c> airline</c><00:27:14.200><c> or</c><00:27:14.280><c> Telco,</c><00:27:14.760><c> I</c><00:27:14.800><c> don't</c><00:27:15.040><c> want</c>

00:27:15.230 --> 00:27:15.240 align:start position:0%
if I'm a airline or Telco, I don't want
 

00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:15.990 align:start position:0%
if I'm a airline or Telco, I don't want
to

00:27:15.990 --> 00:27:16.000 align:start position:0%
to
 

00:27:16.000 --> 00:27:17.830 align:start position:0%
to
buy<00:27:16.200><c> my</c><00:27:16.560><c> I</c><00:27:16.680><c> have</c><00:27:16.880><c> to</c><00:27:16.920><c> have</c><00:27:17.040><c> a</c><00:27:17.080><c> phone.</c><00:27:17.400><c> I</c><00:27:17.440><c> need</c><00:27:17.760><c> to</c>

00:27:17.830 --> 00:27:17.840 align:start position:0%
buy my I have to have a phone. I need to
 

00:27:17.840 --> 00:27:19.990 align:start position:0%
buy my I have to have a phone. I need to
fly<00:27:18.120><c> to</c><00:27:18.240><c> Sydney.</c><00:27:18.520><c> I</c><00:27:18.560><c> don't</c><00:27:18.800><c> want</c><00:27:19.040><c> to.</c>

00:27:19.990 --> 00:27:20.000 align:start position:0%
fly to Sydney. I don't want to.
 

00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:21.230 align:start position:0%
fly to Sydney. I don't want to.
But<00:27:20.120><c> I</c><00:27:20.160><c> have</c><00:27:20.400><c> to,</c><00:27:20.640><c> so</c><00:27:20.760><c> that's</c><00:27:20.920><c> grudge</c>

00:27:21.230 --> 00:27:21.240 align:start position:0%
But I have to, so that's grudge
 

00:27:21.240 --> 00:27:22.470 align:start position:0%
But I have to, so that's grudge
purchase.<00:27:21.640><c> So,</c><00:27:21.720><c> a</c><00:27:21.760><c> lot</c><00:27:21.880><c> of</c><00:27:21.960><c> the</c><00:27:22.000><c> mechanics</c>

00:27:22.470 --> 00:27:22.480 align:start position:0%
purchase. So, a lot of the mechanics
 

00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:23.710 align:start position:0%
purchase. So, a lot of the mechanics
that<00:27:22.560><c> work</c><00:27:22.760><c> really</c><00:27:23.000><c> well</c><00:27:23.160><c> down</c><00:27:23.360><c> in</c><00:27:23.440><c> grudge</c>

00:27:23.710 --> 00:27:23.720 align:start position:0%
that work really well down in grudge
 

00:27:23.720 --> 00:27:24.830 align:start position:0%
that work really well down in grudge
purchase

00:27:24.830 --> 00:27:24.840 align:start position:0%
purchase
 

00:27:24.840 --> 00:27:26.350 align:start position:0%
purchase
don't<00:27:25.160><c> work</c><00:27:25.480><c> up</c><00:27:25.680><c> here.</c><00:27:25.920><c> We</c><00:27:26.000><c> have</c><00:27:26.120><c> a</c><00:27:26.160><c> lot</c><00:27:26.280><c> of</c>

00:27:26.350 --> 00:27:26.360 align:start position:0%
don't work up here. We have a lot of
 

00:27:26.360 --> 00:27:28.430 align:start position:0%
don't work up here. We have a lot of
brands<00:27:26.680><c> go,</c><00:27:26.960><c> you</c><00:27:27.080><c> know,</c><00:27:27.480><c> the</c><00:27:27.600><c> CEO</c><00:27:28.120><c> loves</c>

00:27:28.430 --> 00:27:28.440 align:start position:0%
brands go, you know, the CEO loves
 

00:27:28.440 --> 00:27:29.990 align:start position:0%
brands go, you know, the CEO loves
flying,<00:27:28.920><c> loves</c><00:27:29.120><c> being</c><00:27:29.320><c> a</c><00:27:29.400><c> platinum</c><00:27:29.760><c> plus</c>

00:27:29.990 --> 00:27:30.000 align:start position:0%
flying, loves being a platinum plus
 

00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:32.110 align:start position:0%
flying, loves being a platinum plus
member<00:27:30.320><c> on,</c><00:27:30.720><c> you</c><00:27:30.800><c> know,</c><00:27:31.000><c> Velocity.</c><00:27:31.920><c> So,</c><00:27:32.080><c> he</c>

00:27:32.110 --> 00:27:32.120 align:start position:0%
member on, you know, Velocity. So, he
 

00:27:32.120 --> 00:27:33.430 align:start position:0%
member on, you know, Velocity. So, he
wants<00:27:32.320><c> to</c><00:27:32.400><c> bring</c><00:27:32.560><c> all</c><00:27:32.640><c> those</c><00:27:32.840><c> mechanics</c><00:27:33.240><c> over</c>

00:27:33.430 --> 00:27:33.440 align:start position:0%
wants to bring all those mechanics over
 

00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:34.750 align:start position:0%
wants to bring all those mechanics over
to<00:27:33.560><c> his</c><00:27:33.680><c> fashion</c><00:27:34.040><c> brand.</c><00:27:34.440><c> It's</c><00:27:34.560><c> like,</c><00:27:34.680><c> well,</c>

00:27:34.750 --> 00:27:34.760 align:start position:0%
to his fashion brand. It's like, well,
 

00:27:34.760 --> 00:27:36.470 align:start position:0%
to his fashion brand. It's like, well,
that<00:27:34.920><c> doesn't</c><00:27:35.320><c> They</c><00:27:35.400><c> don't</c><00:27:35.640><c> translate</c><00:27:36.240><c> very</c>

00:27:36.470 --> 00:27:36.480 align:start position:0%
that doesn't They don't translate very
 

00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:38.750 align:start position:0%
that doesn't They don't translate very
well.<00:27:36.760><c> So,</c><00:27:37.560><c> that's</c><00:27:37.800><c> one</c><00:27:38.000><c> trap</c><00:27:38.320><c> I'd</c><00:27:38.440><c> avoid</c>

00:27:38.750 --> 00:27:38.760 align:start position:0%
well. So, that's one trap I'd avoid
 

00:27:38.760 --> 00:27:40.070 align:start position:0%
well. So, that's one trap I'd avoid
really<00:27:38.920><c> quickly.</c>

00:27:40.070 --> 00:27:40.080 align:start position:0%
really quickly.
 

00:27:40.080 --> 00:27:41.790 align:start position:0%
really quickly.
The<00:27:40.200><c> other</c><00:27:40.360><c> one</c><00:27:40.480><c> is</c><00:27:40.600><c> just</c><00:27:40.760><c> attention</c><00:27:41.200><c> span.</c>

00:27:41.790 --> 00:27:41.800 align:start position:0%
The other one is just attention span.
 

00:27:41.800 --> 00:27:45.670 align:start position:0%
The other one is just attention span.
Like,<00:27:42.520><c> when</c><00:27:42.680><c> I</c><00:27:42.760><c> go</c><00:27:42.920><c> to</c><00:27:43.040><c> buy</c><00:27:43.840><c> um</c><00:27:43.920><c> from</c><00:27:44.120><c> a</c><00:27:44.680><c> uh</c>

00:27:45.670 --> 00:27:45.680 align:start position:0%
Like, when I go to buy um from a uh
 

00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:48.830 align:start position:0%
Like, when I go to buy um from a uh
a<00:27:45.760><c> jewelry</c><00:27:46.120><c> brands,</c><00:27:47.000><c> I</c><00:27:47.120><c> don't</c><00:27:48.080><c> I</c><00:27:48.160><c> really</c><00:27:48.480><c> don't</c>

00:27:48.830 --> 00:27:48.840 align:start position:0%
a jewelry brands, I don't I really don't
 

00:27:48.840 --> 00:27:50.270 align:start position:0%
a jewelry brands, I don't I really don't
want<00:27:49.040><c> to</c><00:27:49.120><c> join</c><00:27:49.360><c> your</c><00:27:49.480><c> loyalty</c><00:27:49.800><c> program,</c><00:27:50.160><c> no</c>

00:27:50.270 --> 00:27:50.280 align:start position:0%
want to join your loyalty program, no
 

00:27:50.280 --> 00:27:51.750 align:start position:0%
want to join your loyalty program, no
matter<00:27:50.520><c> how</c><00:27:50.680><c> pretty</c><00:27:51.160><c> and</c><00:27:51.360><c> beautifully</c>

00:27:51.750 --> 00:27:51.760 align:start position:0%
matter how pretty and beautifully
 

00:27:51.760 --> 00:27:53.670 align:start position:0%
matter how pretty and beautifully
designed<00:27:52.200><c> it</c><00:27:52.320><c> is.</c><00:27:52.440><c> I</c><00:27:52.520><c> really</c><00:27:52.760><c> don't.</c><00:27:53.280><c> I</c><00:27:53.360><c> will</c>

00:27:53.670 --> 00:27:53.680 align:start position:0%
designed it is. I really don't. I will
 

00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:55.510 align:start position:0%
designed it is. I really don't. I will
if<00:27:53.920><c> I</c><00:27:54.040><c> if</c><00:27:54.240><c> I</c><00:27:54.360><c> have</c><00:27:54.640><c> to,</c>

00:27:55.510 --> 00:27:55.520 align:start position:0%
if I if I have to,
 

00:27:55.520 --> 00:27:57.190 align:start position:0%
if I if I have to,
but<00:27:55.840><c> I'm</c><00:27:56.000><c> here</c><00:27:56.120><c> to</c><00:27:56.240><c> buy</c><00:27:56.560><c> some</c><00:27:56.760><c> jewelry</c><00:27:57.080><c> for</c>

00:27:57.190 --> 00:27:57.200 align:start position:0%
but I'm here to buy some jewelry for
 

00:27:57.200 --> 00:27:59.630 align:start position:0%
but I'm here to buy some jewelry for
someone<00:27:57.480><c> I</c><00:27:57.520><c> care</c><00:27:57.800><c> about.</c><00:27:58.360><c> Or</c><00:27:58.480><c> I'm</c><00:27:58.600><c> here</c><00:27:58.880><c> to,</c>

00:27:59.630 --> 00:27:59.640 align:start position:0%
someone I care about. Or I'm here to,
 

00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:00.870 align:start position:0%
someone I care about. Or I'm here to,
you<00:27:59.720><c> know,</c><00:27:59.800><c> put</c><00:28:00.040><c> some</c><00:28:00.160><c> clothes</c><00:28:00.440><c> on</c><00:28:00.520><c> my</c><00:28:00.640><c> back</c>

00:28:00.870 --> 00:28:00.880 align:start position:0%
you know, put some clothes on my back
 

00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:02.190 align:start position:0%
you know, put some clothes on my back
because<00:28:01.080><c> the</c><00:28:01.200><c> other</c><00:28:01.400><c> stuff's</c><00:28:01.680><c> looking</c><00:28:01.960><c> old</c>

00:28:02.190 --> 00:28:02.200 align:start position:0%
because the other stuff's looking old
 

00:28:02.200 --> 00:28:05.270 align:start position:0%
because the other stuff's looking old
and<00:28:02.360><c> worn.</c><00:28:02.760><c> So,</c><00:28:03.560><c> help</c><00:28:03.840><c> me</c><00:28:04.000><c> do</c><00:28:04.200><c> those</c><00:28:04.480><c> things.</c>

00:28:05.270 --> 00:28:05.280 align:start position:0%
and worn. So, help me do those things.
 

00:28:05.280 --> 00:28:07.150 align:start position:0%
and worn. So, help me do those things.
And<00:28:05.440><c> if</c><00:28:05.720><c> if</c><00:28:05.960><c> as</c><00:28:06.120><c> a</c><00:28:06.160><c> result</c><00:28:06.600><c> of</c><00:28:06.680><c> that</c><00:28:06.960><c> there's</c>

00:28:07.150 --> 00:28:07.160 align:start position:0%
And if if as a result of that there's
 

00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:08.390 align:start position:0%
And if if as a result of that there's
some<00:28:07.320><c> benefits</c><00:28:07.800><c> that</c><00:28:07.920><c> I</c><00:28:07.960><c> can</c><00:28:08.120><c> start</c>

00:28:08.390 --> 00:28:08.400 align:start position:0%
some benefits that I can start
 

00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:10.390 align:start position:0%
some benefits that I can start
discovering<00:28:08.920><c> over</c><00:28:09.120><c> time,</c><00:28:09.520><c> then</c><00:28:09.840><c> I'll</c><00:28:10.040><c> happily</c>

00:28:10.390 --> 00:28:10.400 align:start position:0%
discovering over time, then I'll happily
 

00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:12.910 align:start position:0%
discovering over time, then I'll happily
engage<00:28:10.800><c> with</c><00:28:10.920><c> those</c><00:28:11.200><c> things.</c><00:28:12.200><c> So,</c><00:28:12.520><c> the</c><00:28:12.800><c> the</c>

00:28:12.910 --> 00:28:12.920 align:start position:0%
engage with those things. So, the the
 

00:28:12.920 --> 00:28:15.270 align:start position:0%
engage with those things. So, the the
best<00:28:13.240><c> way</c><00:28:13.400><c> to</c><00:28:13.960><c> to</c><00:28:14.160><c> really</c><00:28:14.400><c> get</c><00:28:14.560><c> this</c><00:28:14.720><c> short</c><00:28:15.080><c> is</c>

00:28:15.270 --> 00:28:15.280 align:start position:0%
best way to to really get this short is
 

00:28:15.280 --> 00:28:17.550 align:start position:0%
best way to to really get this short is
that<00:28:15.440><c> there's</c><00:28:15.840><c> status,</c><00:28:16.400><c> access,</c><00:28:16.880><c> power,</c><00:28:17.360><c> and</c>

00:28:17.550 --> 00:28:17.560 align:start position:0%
that there's status, access, power, and
 

00:28:17.560 --> 00:28:18.830 align:start position:0%
that there's status, access, power, and
stuff.

00:28:18.830 --> 00:28:18.840 align:start position:0%
stuff.
 

00:28:18.840 --> 00:28:20.270 align:start position:0%
stuff.
Right?<00:28:19.040><c> So,</c><00:28:19.160><c> most</c><00:28:19.440><c> brands</c><00:28:19.720><c> just</c><00:28:19.880><c> focus</c><00:28:20.160><c> on</c>

00:28:20.270 --> 00:28:20.280 align:start position:0%
Right? So, most brands just focus on
 

00:28:20.280 --> 00:28:21.270 align:start position:0%
Right? So, most brands just focus on
stuff,

00:28:21.270 --> 00:28:21.280 align:start position:0%
stuff,
 

00:28:21.280 --> 00:28:22.750 align:start position:0%
stuff,
but<00:28:21.440><c> think</c><00:28:21.600><c> about</c><00:28:21.880><c> status,</c><00:28:22.280><c> access,</c><00:28:22.640><c> and</c>

00:28:22.750 --> 00:28:22.760 align:start position:0%
but think about status, access, and
 

00:28:22.760 --> 00:28:24.710 align:start position:0%
but think about status, access, and
power.<00:28:23.320><c> And</c><00:28:23.440><c> if</c><00:28:23.520><c> you</c><00:28:23.600><c> can</c><00:28:23.760><c> combine</c><00:28:24.200><c> mechanics</c>

00:28:24.710 --> 00:28:24.720 align:start position:0%
power. And if you can combine mechanics
 

00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:26.590 align:start position:0%
power. And if you can combine mechanics
that<00:28:24.840><c> give</c><00:28:25.000><c> me</c><00:28:25.080><c> status,</c><00:28:25.880><c> give</c><00:28:26.040><c> me</c><00:28:26.160><c> access</c><00:28:26.480><c> to</c>

00:28:26.590 --> 00:28:26.600 align:start position:0%
that give me status, give me access to
 

00:28:26.600 --> 00:28:28.630 align:start position:0%
that give me status, give me access to
things<00:28:27.000><c> that</c><00:28:27.320><c> I</c><00:28:27.480><c> normally</c><00:28:27.960><c> wouldn't</c><00:28:28.480><c> have</c>

00:28:28.630 --> 00:28:28.640 align:start position:0%
things that I normally wouldn't have
 

00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:30.190 align:start position:0%
things that I normally wouldn't have
access<00:28:28.920><c> to,</c><00:28:29.080><c> so</c><00:28:29.240><c> exclusive</c><00:28:29.720><c> drops,</c>

00:28:30.190 --> 00:28:30.200 align:start position:0%
access to, so exclusive drops,
 

00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:32.150 align:start position:0%
access to, so exclusive drops,
pre-ordering,<00:28:30.920><c> all</c><00:28:31.040><c> those</c><00:28:31.200><c> other</c><00:28:31.360><c> things.</c>

00:28:32.150 --> 00:28:32.160 align:start position:0%
pre-ordering, all those other things.
 

00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:34.510 align:start position:0%
pre-ordering, all those other things.
The<00:28:32.280><c> power,</c><00:28:32.840><c> so</c><00:28:33.560><c> I've</c><00:28:33.720><c> earned</c><00:28:33.880><c> a</c><00:28:33.960><c> reward,</c><00:28:34.400><c> but</c>

00:28:34.510 --> 00:28:34.520 align:start position:0%
The power, so I've earned a reward, but
 

00:28:34.520 --> 00:28:35.830 align:start position:0%
The power, so I've earned a reward, but
I<00:28:34.600><c> can't</c><00:28:34.920><c> use</c><00:28:35.080><c> it.</c><00:28:35.200><c> But</c><00:28:35.360><c> Martin,</c><00:28:35.680><c> you're</c><00:28:35.800><c> a</c>

00:28:35.830 --> 00:28:35.840 align:start position:0%
I can't use it. But Martin, you're a
 

00:28:35.840 --> 00:28:37.230 align:start position:0%
I can't use it. But Martin, you're a
nice<00:28:36.080><c> guy,</c><00:28:36.360><c> so</c><00:28:36.520><c> I'm</c><00:28:36.600><c> going</c><00:28:36.720><c> to</c><00:28:36.800><c> give</c><00:28:36.920><c> you</c><00:28:37.040><c> my</c>

00:28:37.230 --> 00:28:37.240 align:start position:0%
nice guy, so I'm going to give you my
 

00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:39.390 align:start position:0%
nice guy, so I'm going to give you my
reward<00:28:37.520><c> that</c><00:28:37.680><c> I've</c><00:28:37.880><c> earned</c><00:28:38.160><c> to</c><00:28:38.320><c> you.</c><00:28:39.240><c> So,</c><00:28:39.320><c> it's</c>

00:28:39.390 --> 00:28:39.400 align:start position:0%
reward that I've earned to you. So, it's
 

00:28:39.400 --> 00:28:40.910 align:start position:0%
reward that I've earned to you. So, it's
not<00:28:39.520><c> a</c><00:28:39.560><c> refer</c><00:28:39.880><c> a</c><00:28:39.960><c> friend.</c><00:28:40.360><c> It's</c><00:28:40.520><c> like,</c><00:28:40.800><c> I've</c>

00:28:40.910 --> 00:28:40.920 align:start position:0%
not a refer a friend. It's like, I've
 

00:28:40.920 --> 00:28:42.790 align:start position:0%
not a refer a friend. It's like, I've
earned<00:28:41.040><c> a</c><00:28:41.080><c> reward</c><00:28:41.560><c> fair</c><00:28:41.720><c> and</c><00:28:41.840><c> square.</c><00:28:42.640><c> It's</c><00:28:42.760><c> as</c>

00:28:42.790 --> 00:28:42.800 align:start position:0%
earned a reward fair and square. It's as
 

00:28:42.800 --> 00:28:44.070 align:start position:0%
earned a reward fair and square. It's as
good<00:28:42.960><c> as</c><00:28:43.080><c> money.</c><00:28:43.440><c> I'm</c><00:28:43.520><c> going</c><00:28:43.640><c> to</c><00:28:43.720><c> give</c><00:28:43.840><c> it</c><00:28:43.960><c> to</c>

00:28:44.070 --> 00:28:44.080 align:start position:0%
good as money. I'm going to give it to
 

00:28:44.080 --> 00:28:45.990 align:start position:0%
good as money. I'm going to give it to
you.<00:28:44.640><c> And</c><00:28:44.880><c> the</c><00:28:45.000><c> whole,</c><00:28:45.600><c> you</c><00:28:45.680><c> know,</c><00:28:45.760><c> that's</c><00:28:45.920><c> a</c>

00:28:45.990 --> 00:28:46.000 align:start position:0%
you. And the whole, you know, that's a
 

00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:48.390 align:start position:0%
you. And the whole, you know, that's a
very<00:28:46.320><c> different</c><00:28:47.360><c> mechanic</c><00:28:47.880><c> now.</c><00:28:48.200><c> Loss</c>

00:28:48.390 --> 00:28:48.400 align:start position:0%
very different mechanic now. Loss
 

00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:50.310 align:start position:0%
very different mechanic now. Loss
aversion<00:28:48.760><c> bias</c><00:28:49.080><c> for</c><00:28:49.200><c> yourself</c><00:28:49.600><c> and</c><00:28:49.920><c> myself</c>

00:28:50.310 --> 00:28:50.320 align:start position:0%
aversion bias for yourself and myself
 

00:28:50.320 --> 00:28:52.110 align:start position:0%
aversion bias for yourself and myself
kicks<00:28:50.600><c> in.</c><00:28:51.120><c> Yeah,</c><00:28:51.280><c> it's</c><00:28:51.440><c> a</c><00:28:51.520><c> better</c><00:28:51.840><c> way</c><00:28:52.000><c> of</c>

00:28:52.110 --> 00:28:52.120 align:start position:0%
kicks in. Yeah, it's a better way of
 

00:28:52.120 --> 00:28:54.790 align:start position:0%
kicks in. Yeah, it's a better way of
thinking<00:28:52.440><c> about</c><00:28:53.080><c> those</c><00:28:53.360><c> incentives.</c>

00:28:54.790 --> 00:28:54.800 align:start position:0%
thinking about those incentives.
 

00:28:54.800 --> 00:28:56.830 align:start position:0%
thinking about those incentives.
And<00:28:54.920><c> then</c><00:28:55.040><c> stuff,</c><00:28:55.480><c> yes,</c><00:28:55.720><c> the</c><00:28:55.840><c> discount</c><00:28:56.280><c> of</c><00:28:56.400><c> the</c>

00:28:56.830 --> 00:28:56.840 align:start position:0%
And then stuff, yes, the discount of the
 

00:28:56.840 --> 00:28:58.710 align:start position:0%
And then stuff, yes, the discount of the
points<00:28:57.240><c> or</c><00:28:57.320><c> whatever</c><00:28:57.640><c> else.</c>

00:28:58.710 --> 00:28:58.720 align:start position:0%
points or whatever else.
 

00:28:58.720 --> 00:29:00.190 align:start position:0%
points or whatever else.
That<00:28:58.840><c> should</c><00:28:58.960><c> be</c><00:28:59.080><c> a</c><00:28:59.160><c> last</c><00:28:59.480><c> resort.</c><00:29:00.080><c> They're</c>

00:29:00.190 --> 00:29:00.200 align:start position:0%
That should be a last resort. They're
 

00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:02.390 align:start position:0%
That should be a last resort. They're
just<00:29:00.440><c> there</c><00:29:01.080><c> table</c><00:29:01.360><c> stakes</c><00:29:01.720><c> stuff</c><00:29:02.000><c> to</c><00:29:02.080><c> catch</c>

00:29:02.390 --> 00:29:02.400 align:start position:0%
just there table stakes stuff to catch
 

00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:03.750 align:start position:0%
just there table stakes stuff to catch
some<00:29:02.560><c> of</c><00:29:02.640><c> the</c><00:29:02.720><c> scraps</c><00:29:03.080><c> at</c><00:29:03.160><c> the</c><00:29:03.280><c> edges,</c><00:29:03.560><c> but</c><00:29:03.680><c> the</c>

00:29:03.750 --> 00:29:03.760 align:start position:0%
some of the scraps at the edges, but the
 

00:29:03.760 --> 00:29:05.110 align:start position:0%
some of the scraps at the edges, but the
status<00:29:04.080><c> access</c><00:29:04.360><c> and</c><00:29:04.480><c> power.</c><00:29:04.720><c> And</c><00:29:04.800><c> then</c><00:29:04.920><c> also</c>

00:29:05.110 --> 00:29:05.120 align:start position:0%
status access and power. And then also
 

00:29:05.120 --> 00:29:06.470 align:start position:0%
status access and power. And then also
realize<00:29:05.440><c> that</c><00:29:05.520><c> your</c><00:29:05.600><c> customers</c><00:29:06.080><c> fall</c><00:29:06.320><c> on</c><00:29:06.440><c> a</c>

00:29:06.470 --> 00:29:06.480 align:start position:0%
realize that your customers fall on a
 

00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:09.070 align:start position:0%
realize that your customers fall on a
continuum<00:29:07.120><c> of</c><00:29:07.760><c> casual,</c><00:29:08.640><c> I'm</c><00:29:08.760><c> just</c><00:29:08.920><c> here</c><00:29:09.000><c> to</c>

00:29:09.070 --> 00:29:09.080 align:start position:0%
continuum of casual, I'm just here to
 

00:29:09.080 --> 00:29:10.430 align:start position:0%
continuum of casual, I'm just here to
buy<00:29:09.240><c> some</c><00:29:09.400><c> stuff</c><00:29:09.720><c> and</c><00:29:09.840><c> if</c><00:29:09.960><c> I</c><00:29:10.040><c> happen</c><00:29:10.320><c> to</c>

00:29:10.430 --> 00:29:10.440 align:start position:0%
buy some stuff and if I happen to
 

00:29:10.440 --> 00:29:12.910 align:start position:0%
buy some stuff and if I happen to
discover<00:29:10.800><c> some</c><00:29:11.040><c> mechanics,</c><00:29:11.520><c> then</c><00:29:11.840><c> so</c><00:29:12.040><c> be</c><00:29:12.200><c> it.</c>

00:29:12.910 --> 00:29:12.920 align:start position:0%
discover some mechanics, then so be it.
 

00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:14.750 align:start position:0%
discover some mechanics, then so be it.
And<00:29:13.000><c> you've</c><00:29:13.120><c> got</c><00:29:13.280><c> your</c><00:29:14.120><c> fanatics</c><00:29:14.600><c> and</c>

00:29:14.750 --> 00:29:14.760 align:start position:0%
And you've got your fanatics and
 

00:29:14.760 --> 00:29:16.470 align:start position:0%
And you've got your fanatics and
prosumers.<00:29:15.640><c> So</c><00:29:15.800><c> prosumers</c><00:29:16.280><c> and</c><00:29:16.360><c> then</c>

00:29:16.470 --> 00:29:16.480 align:start position:0%
prosumers. So prosumers and then
 

00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:18.110 align:start position:0%
prosumers. So prosumers and then
fanatics,<00:29:16.920><c> the</c><00:29:17.000><c> people</c><00:29:17.200><c> who</c><00:29:17.280><c> do</c><00:29:17.560><c> enjoy</c>

00:29:18.110 --> 00:29:18.120 align:start position:0%
fanatics, the people who do enjoy
 

00:29:18.120 --> 00:29:19.990 align:start position:0%
fanatics, the people who do enjoy
engaging<00:29:18.680><c> with</c><00:29:18.920><c> some</c><00:29:19.600><c> interesting</c>

00:29:19.990 --> 00:29:20.000 align:start position:0%
engaging with some interesting
 

00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:21.830 align:start position:0%
engaging with some interesting
gamification<00:29:20.680><c> mechanics</c><00:29:21.160><c> or</c><00:29:21.280><c> other</c><00:29:21.440><c> things.</c>

00:29:21.830 --> 00:29:21.840 align:start position:0%
gamification mechanics or other things.
 

00:29:21.840 --> 00:29:23.390 align:start position:0%
gamification mechanics or other things.
So<00:29:22.160><c> you</c><00:29:22.280><c> still</c><00:29:22.480><c> need</c><00:29:22.640><c> to</c><00:29:22.720><c> cater</c><00:29:23.000><c> for</c><00:29:23.080><c> them</c><00:29:23.280><c> cuz</c>

00:29:23.390 --> 00:29:23.400 align:start position:0%
So you still need to cater for them cuz
 

00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:24.630 align:start position:0%
So you still need to cater for them cuz
they're<00:29:23.520><c> often</c><00:29:23.800><c> the</c>

00:29:24.630 --> 00:29:24.640 align:start position:0%
they're often the
 

00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:25.790 align:start position:0%
they're often the
the<00:29:24.800><c> the</c><00:29:24.920><c> thin</c><00:29:25.160><c> edge</c><00:29:25.280><c> of</c><00:29:25.360><c> the</c><00:29:25.440><c> wedge</c><00:29:25.680><c> that</c>

00:29:25.790 --> 00:29:25.800 align:start position:0%
the the thin edge of the wedge that
 

00:29:25.800 --> 00:29:28.150 align:start position:0%
the the thin edge of the wedge that
generate<00:29:26.080><c> a</c><00:29:26.160><c> lot</c><00:29:26.320><c> of</c><00:29:26.400><c> revenue.</c><00:29:27.240><c> Um</c>

00:29:28.150 --> 00:29:28.160 align:start position:0%
generate a lot of revenue. Um
 

00:29:28.160 --> 00:29:29.950 align:start position:0%
generate a lot of revenue. Um
just<00:29:28.280><c> be</c><00:29:28.440><c> realistic</c><00:29:28.920><c> about</c><00:29:29.280><c> how</c><00:29:29.480><c> many</c><00:29:29.680><c> people</c>

00:29:29.950 --> 00:29:29.960 align:start position:0%
just be realistic about how many people
 

00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:31.230 align:start position:0%
just be realistic about how many people
will<00:29:30.080><c> actively</c><00:29:30.480><c> engage</c><00:29:30.920><c> with</c><00:29:31.040><c> those</c>

00:29:31.230 --> 00:29:31.240 align:start position:0%
will actively engage with those
 

00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:33.190 align:start position:0%
will actively engage with those
mechanics.<00:29:31.720><c> It'll</c><00:29:31.920><c> generally</c><00:29:32.320><c> be</c>

00:29:33.190 --> 00:29:33.200 align:start position:0%
mechanics. It'll generally be
 

00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:35.070 align:start position:0%
mechanics. It'll generally be
you<00:29:33.280><c> know,</c><00:29:33.360><c> 5,</c><00:29:33.720><c> 10,</c><00:29:33.960><c> 15%</c><00:29:34.560><c> of</c><00:29:34.640><c> your</c><00:29:34.760><c> audience,</c>

00:29:35.070 --> 00:29:35.080 align:start position:0%
you know, 5, 10, 15% of your audience,
 

00:29:35.080 --> 00:29:37.350 align:start position:0%
you know, 5, 10, 15% of your audience,
but<00:29:35.200><c> they</c><00:29:35.280><c> might</c><00:29:35.480><c> generate</c><00:29:35.840><c> 50%,</c><00:29:36.680><c> 60%</c><00:29:37.200><c> of</c><00:29:37.280><c> your</c>

00:29:37.350 --> 00:29:37.360 align:start position:0%
but they might generate 50%, 60% of your
 

00:29:37.360 --> 00:29:39.790 align:start position:0%
but they might generate 50%, 60% of your
revenue.<00:29:37.920><c> So</c><00:29:38.160><c> it's</c><00:29:38.320><c> worth</c><00:29:39.160><c> it's</c><00:29:39.320><c> worth</c><00:29:39.560><c> doing</c>

00:29:39.790 --> 00:29:39.800 align:start position:0%
revenue. So it's worth it's worth doing
 

00:29:39.800 --> 00:29:41.070 align:start position:0%
revenue. So it's worth it's worth doing
it.<00:29:39.960><c> And</c><00:29:40.040><c> the</c><00:29:40.120><c> last</c><00:29:40.400><c> little</c><00:29:40.560><c> tip</c><00:29:40.760><c> I'd</c><00:29:40.880><c> give</c>

00:29:41.070 --> 00:29:41.080 align:start position:0%
it. And the last little tip I'd give
 

00:29:41.080 --> 00:29:44.030 align:start position:0%
it. And the last little tip I'd give
there<00:29:41.280><c> is</c><00:29:41.400><c> just</c><00:29:41.560><c> be</c><00:29:41.680><c> careful</c><00:29:42.280><c> of</c>

00:29:44.030 --> 00:29:44.040 align:start position:0%
there is just be careful of
 

00:29:44.040 --> 00:29:45.670 align:start position:0%
there is just be careful of
uh<00:29:44.360><c> just</c><00:29:44.560><c> ask</c><00:29:44.800><c> yourself</c><00:29:45.120><c> when</c><00:29:45.280><c> you</c><00:29:45.440><c> whenever</c>

00:29:45.670 --> 00:29:45.680 align:start position:0%
uh just ask yourself when you whenever
 

00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:47.230 align:start position:0%
uh just ask yourself when you whenever
you're<00:29:45.800><c> going</c><00:29:46.000><c> to</c><00:29:46.120><c> like</c><00:29:46.280><c> a</c><00:29:46.520><c> a</c><00:29:46.600><c> pet</c><00:29:46.920><c> shop</c><00:29:47.160><c> and</c>

00:29:47.230 --> 00:29:47.240 align:start position:0%
you're going to like a a pet shop and
 

00:29:47.240 --> 00:29:48.710 align:start position:0%
you're going to like a a pet shop and
they<00:29:47.320><c> go,</c><00:29:47.440><c> "Oh,</c><00:29:47.520><c> it</c><00:29:47.680><c> says</c><00:29:47.960><c> you've</c><00:29:48.080><c> got</c><00:29:48.240><c> $7</c>

00:29:48.710 --> 00:29:48.720 align:start position:0%
they go, "Oh, it says you've got $7
 

00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:50.110 align:start position:0%
they go, "Oh, it says you've got $7
here.<00:29:48.880><c> Would</c><00:29:49.040><c> you</c><00:29:49.120><c> like</c><00:29:49.320><c> to</c><00:29:49.400><c> redeem</c><00:29:49.760><c> it?"</c><00:29:50.080><c> Oh,</c>

00:29:50.110 --> 00:29:50.120 align:start position:0%
here. Would you like to redeem it?" Oh,
 

00:29:50.120 --> 00:29:51.150 align:start position:0%
here. Would you like to redeem it?" Oh,
okay.

00:29:51.150 --> 00:29:51.160 align:start position:0%
okay.
 

00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:53.270 align:start position:0%
okay.
Did<00:29:51.720><c> I</c><00:29:51.800><c> didn't</c><00:29:52.280><c> I</c><00:29:52.360><c> totally</c><00:29:52.680><c> forgotten</c><00:29:53.000><c> about</c>

00:29:53.270 --> 00:29:53.280 align:start position:0%
Did I didn't I totally forgotten about
 

00:29:53.280 --> 00:29:54.910 align:start position:0%
Did I didn't I totally forgotten about
that,<00:29:53.480><c> but</c><00:29:53.600><c> I'll</c><00:29:53.720><c> use</c><00:29:53.880><c> it.</c><00:29:53.960><c> That's</c><00:29:54.160><c> marginal.</c>

00:29:54.910 --> 00:29:54.920 align:start position:0%
that, but I'll use it. That's marginal.
 

00:29:54.920 --> 00:29:57.310 align:start position:0%
that, but I'll use it. That's marginal.
Like<00:29:55.080><c> if</c><00:29:55.200><c> I</c><00:29:55.240><c> didn't</c><00:29:55.480><c> come</c><00:29:55.720><c> back</c><00:29:55.960><c> in</c><00:29:56.240><c> to</c><00:29:56.440><c> use</c><00:29:56.640><c> it,</c>

00:29:57.310 --> 00:29:57.320 align:start position:0%
Like if I didn't come back in to use it,
 

00:29:57.320 --> 00:29:58.790 align:start position:0%
Like if I didn't come back in to use it,
then<00:29:57.480><c> you're</c><00:29:57.600><c> really</c><00:29:57.840><c> just</c><00:29:58.000><c> giving</c><00:29:58.160><c> it</c><00:29:58.280><c> away</c>

00:29:58.790 --> 00:29:58.800 align:start position:0%
then you're really just giving it away
 

00:29:58.800 --> 00:30:00.910 align:start position:0%
then you're really just giving it away
for<00:29:58.920><c> no</c><00:29:59.120><c> reason.</c><00:29:59.480><c> It</c><00:29:59.560><c> might</c><00:29:59.800><c> keep</c><00:30:00.120><c> me</c><00:30:00.280><c> loyal</c><00:30:00.800><c> in</c>

00:30:00.910 --> 00:30:00.920 align:start position:0%
for no reason. It might keep me loyal in
 

00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:03.150 align:start position:0%
for no reason. It might keep me loyal in
that<00:30:01.080><c> grudge</c><00:30:01.440><c> territory</c><00:30:02.280><c> end,</c>

00:30:03.150 --> 00:30:03.160 align:start position:0%
that grudge territory end,
 

00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:05.350 align:start position:0%
that grudge territory end,
but<00:30:03.240><c> just</c><00:30:03.360><c> be</c><00:30:03.480><c> careful</c><00:30:03.920><c> of</c><00:30:04.080><c> the</c><00:30:04.640><c> discover</c><00:30:05.160><c> at</c>

00:30:05.350 --> 00:30:05.360 align:start position:0%
but just be careful of the discover at
 

00:30:05.360 --> 00:30:07.950 align:start position:0%
but just be careful of the discover at
checkout<00:30:06.040><c> benefits</c><00:30:06.600><c> because</c><00:30:07.560><c> I'm</c><00:30:07.720><c> already</c>

00:30:07.950 --> 00:30:07.960 align:start position:0%
checkout benefits because I'm already
 

00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:09.590 align:start position:0%
checkout benefits because I'm already
there<00:30:08.280><c> at</c><00:30:08.360><c> that</c><00:30:08.560><c> point.</c><00:30:08.920><c> You</c><00:30:09.040><c> should</c><00:30:09.200><c> have</c><00:30:09.520><c> I</c>

00:30:09.590 --> 00:30:09.600 align:start position:0%
there at that point. You should have I
 

00:30:09.600 --> 00:30:12.030 align:start position:0%
there at that point. You should have I
should<00:30:09.800><c> have</c><00:30:09.920><c> been</c><00:30:10.160><c> there</c><00:30:10.360><c> to</c><00:30:10.480><c> redeem.</c><00:30:11.600><c> Yeah.</c>

00:30:12.030 --> 00:30:12.040 align:start position:0%
should have been there to redeem. Yeah.
 

00:30:12.040 --> 00:30:13.150 align:start position:0%
should have been there to redeem. Yeah.
And<00:30:12.160><c> then</c><00:30:12.280><c> long</c><00:30:12.440><c> liabilities,</c><00:30:12.960><c> that's</c><00:30:13.080><c> the</c>

00:30:13.150 --> 00:30:13.160 align:start position:0%
And then long liabilities, that's the
 

00:30:13.160 --> 00:30:15.190 align:start position:0%
And then long liabilities, that's the
last<00:30:13.400><c> one.</c><00:30:13.520><c> So</c><00:30:13.600><c> just</c><00:30:13.720><c> be</c><00:30:13.800><c> careful</c><00:30:14.160><c> of</c><00:30:14.240><c> those.</c>

00:30:15.190 --> 00:30:15.200 align:start position:0%
last one. So just be careful of those.
 

00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:16.990 align:start position:0%
last one. So just be careful of those.
Points<00:30:15.600><c> mechanics</c><00:30:16.080><c> have</c><00:30:16.200><c> this</c><00:30:16.400><c> really</c><00:30:16.600><c> nasty</c>

00:30:16.990 --> 00:30:17.000 align:start position:0%
Points mechanics have this really nasty
 

00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:18.630 align:start position:0%
Points mechanics have this really nasty
liability<00:30:17.560><c> effect</c><00:30:17.840><c> that</c><00:30:17.960><c> can</c><00:30:18.080><c> build</c><00:30:18.360><c> up.</c><00:30:18.520><c> So</c>

00:30:18.630 --> 00:30:18.640 align:start position:0%
liability effect that can build up. So
 

00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:20.470 align:start position:0%
liability effect that can build up. So
just<00:30:19.400><c> talk</c><00:30:19.600><c> to</c><00:30:19.680><c> your</c><00:30:19.800><c> accountants</c><00:30:20.240><c> and</c><00:30:20.320><c> just</c>

00:30:20.470 --> 00:30:20.480 align:start position:0%
just talk to your accountants and just
 

00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:21.510 align:start position:0%
just talk to your accountants and just
make<00:30:20.640><c> sure</c><00:30:20.760><c> that</c><00:30:20.880><c> the</c><00:30:20.960><c> mechanics</c><00:30:21.360><c> that</c><00:30:21.440><c> you're</c>

00:30:21.510 --> 00:30:21.520 align:start position:0%
make sure that the mechanics that you're
 

00:30:21.520 --> 00:30:22.950 align:start position:0%
make sure that the mechanics that you're
choosing<00:30:21.880><c> don't</c>

00:30:22.950 --> 00:30:22.960 align:start position:0%
choosing don't
 

00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:24.390 align:start position:0%
choosing don't
bite<00:30:23.160><c> you</c><00:30:23.240><c> in</c><00:30:23.320><c> the</c><00:30:23.400><c> butt</c><00:30:23.640><c> when</c><00:30:23.720><c> it</c><00:30:23.800><c> comes</c><00:30:24.080><c> to</c>

00:30:24.390 --> 00:30:24.400 align:start position:0%
bite you in the butt when it comes to
 

00:30:24.400 --> 00:30:26.270 align:start position:0%
bite you in the butt when it comes to
long-term<00:30:24.880><c> liabilities.</c>

00:30:26.270 --> 00:30:26.280 align:start position:0%
long-term liabilities.
 

00:30:26.280 --> 00:30:27.750 align:start position:0%
long-term liabilities.
&gt;&gt; Yeah,<00:30:26.480><c> absolutely.</c><00:30:27.040><c> Yeah,</c><00:30:27.160><c> that</c><00:30:27.320><c> the</c><00:30:27.440><c> point</c>

00:30:27.750 --> 00:30:27.760 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that the point
 

00:30:27.760 --> 00:30:29.950 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that the point
on<00:30:27.880><c> like</c><00:30:28.120><c> the</c><00:30:28.320><c> the</c><00:30:28.480><c> giving</c><00:30:28.840><c> people</c><00:30:29.320><c> rewards</c>

00:30:29.950 --> 00:30:29.960 align:start position:0%
on like the the giving people rewards
 

00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:31.990 align:start position:0%
on like the the giving people rewards
that<00:30:30.160><c> they</c><00:30:30.280><c> don't</c><00:30:30.520><c> even</c><00:30:30.680><c> know</c><00:30:30.840><c> about</c><00:30:31.280><c> is</c><00:30:31.560><c> is</c><00:30:31.800><c> so</c>

00:30:31.990 --> 00:30:32.000 align:start position:0%
that they don't even know about is is so
 

00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:34.750 align:start position:0%
that they don't even know about is is so
valid<00:30:32.520><c> cuz</c><00:30:32.720><c> also</c><00:30:33.040><c> it</c><00:30:33.080><c> can</c><00:30:33.400><c> also</c><00:30:33.720><c> then</c><00:30:33.960><c> lead</c><00:30:34.240><c> to</c>

00:30:34.750 --> 00:30:34.760 align:start position:0%
valid cuz also it can also then lead to
 

00:30:34.760 --> 00:30:36.670 align:start position:0%
valid cuz also it can also then lead to
like<00:30:35.000><c> to</c><00:30:35.120><c> piss</c><00:30:35.360><c> that</c><00:30:35.520><c> customer</c><00:30:36.000><c> off</c><00:30:36.200><c> too.</c><00:30:36.440><c> Like</c>

00:30:36.670 --> 00:30:36.680 align:start position:0%
like to piss that customer off too. Like
 

00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:38.430 align:start position:0%
like to piss that customer off too. Like
if<00:30:36.800><c> you</c><00:30:37.000><c> go</c><00:30:37.280><c> into</c><00:30:37.520><c> the</c><00:30:37.600><c> store</c><00:30:37.880><c> one</c><00:30:38.080><c> time</c><00:30:38.360><c> and</c>

00:30:38.430 --> 00:30:38.440 align:start position:0%
if you go into the store one time and
 

00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:40.110 align:start position:0%
if you go into the store one time and
they<00:30:38.560><c> say,</c><00:30:38.720><c> "Oh,</c><00:30:38.880><c> you've</c><00:30:39.040><c> got</c><00:30:39.240><c> $7</c><00:30:39.840><c> on</c><00:30:39.960><c> your</c>

00:30:40.110 --> 00:30:40.120 align:start position:0%
they say, "Oh, you've got $7 on your
 

00:30:40.120 --> 00:30:43.110 align:start position:0%
they say, "Oh, you've got $7 on your
account."<00:30:40.920><c> You</c><00:30:41.160><c> you</c><00:30:41.320><c> then</c><00:30:41.640><c> become</c><00:30:42.560><c> addicted</c>

00:30:43.110 --> 00:30:43.120 align:start position:0%
account." You you then become addicted
 

00:30:43.120 --> 00:30:44.790 align:start position:0%
account." You you then become addicted
to<00:30:43.200><c> those</c><00:30:43.440><c> discounts</c><00:30:44.120><c> and</c><00:30:44.200><c> the</c><00:30:44.280><c> next</c><00:30:44.520><c> time</c><00:30:44.720><c> you</c>

00:30:44.790 --> 00:30:44.800 align:start position:0%
to those discounts and the next time you
 

00:30:44.800 --> 00:30:47.070 align:start position:0%
to those discounts and the next time you
go<00:30:45.000><c> in</c><00:30:45.200><c> you</c><00:30:45.280><c> don't</c><00:30:45.520><c> get</c><00:30:45.720><c> $7</c><00:30:46.400><c> off</c><00:30:46.640><c> you're</c><00:30:46.800><c> kind</c>

00:30:47.070 --> 00:30:47.080 align:start position:0%
go in you don't get $7 off you're kind
 

00:30:47.080 --> 00:30:49.550 align:start position:0%
go in you don't get $7 off you're kind
of<00:30:47.120><c> a</c><00:30:47.200><c> bit</c><00:30:47.320><c> annoyed</c><00:30:47.920><c> and</c><00:30:48.680><c> when</c><00:30:49.080><c> you've</c><00:30:49.320><c> you've</c>

00:30:49.550 --> 00:30:49.560 align:start position:0%
of a bit annoyed and when you've you've
 

00:30:49.560 --> 00:30:51.390 align:start position:0%
of a bit annoyed and when you've you've
kind<00:30:49.800><c> of</c><00:30:49.920><c> given</c><00:30:50.320><c> someone</c><00:30:50.720><c> something</c><00:30:51.120><c> and</c>

00:30:51.390 --> 00:30:51.400 align:start position:0%
kind of given someone something and
 

00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:53.470 align:start position:0%
kind of given someone something and
ended<00:30:51.680><c> up</c><00:30:51.840><c> actually</c><00:30:52.120><c> not</c><00:30:52.400><c> increasing</c><00:30:52.960><c> their</c>

00:30:53.470 --> 00:30:53.480 align:start position:0%
ended up actually not increasing their
 

00:30:53.480 --> 00:30:55.150 align:start position:0%
ended up actually not increasing their
their<00:30:53.640><c> satisfaction</c><00:30:54.320><c> and</c><00:30:54.440><c> loyalty,</c><00:30:54.920><c> have</c>

00:30:55.150 --> 00:30:55.160 align:start position:0%
their satisfaction and loyalty, have
 

00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:57.910 align:start position:0%
their satisfaction and loyalty, have
you?<00:30:55.320><c> So,</c><00:30:55.960><c> it's</c><00:30:56.440><c> yeah,</c><00:30:57.040><c> it's</c><00:30:57.240><c> actually</c><00:30:57.640><c> just</c>

00:30:57.910 --> 00:30:57.920 align:start position:0%
you? So, it's yeah, it's actually just
 

00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:00.030 align:start position:0%
you? So, it's yeah, it's actually just
not<00:30:58.240><c> not</c><00:30:58.440><c> over</c><00:30:58.680><c> engineering.</c><00:30:59.240><c> That's</c><00:30:59.560><c> the</c><00:30:59.920><c> the</c>

00:31:00.030 --> 00:31:00.040 align:start position:0%
not not over engineering. That's the the
 

00:31:00.040 --> 00:31:00.470 align:start position:0%
not not over engineering. That's the the
key<00:31:00.360><c> thing.</c>

00:31:00.470 --> 00:31:00.480 align:start position:0%
key thing.
 

00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:02.110 align:start position:0%
key thing.
&gt;&gt; of<00:31:00.560><c> brands,</c><00:31:00.960><c> again,</c><00:31:01.200><c> if</c><00:31:01.280><c> you're</c><00:31:01.400><c> vertically</c>

00:31:02.110 --> 00:31:02.120 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; of brands, again, if you're vertically
 

00:31:02.120 --> 00:31:03.310 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; of brands, again, if you're vertically
if<00:31:02.240><c> you're</c><00:31:02.360><c> vertically</c><00:31:02.720><c> integrated,</c><00:31:03.240><c> you've</c>

00:31:03.310 --> 00:31:03.320 align:start position:0%
if you're vertically integrated, you've
 

00:31:03.320 --> 00:31:04.750 align:start position:0%
if you're vertically integrated, you've
got<00:31:03.480><c> some</c><00:31:03.600><c> choices,</c><00:31:04.000><c> but</c><00:31:04.120><c> if</c><00:31:04.240><c> you're</c><00:31:04.440><c> a</c><00:31:04.680><c> a</c>

00:31:04.750 --> 00:31:04.760 align:start position:0%
got some choices, but if you're a a
 

00:31:04.760 --> 00:31:06.590 align:start position:0%
got some choices, but if you're a a
house<00:31:05.000><c> of</c><00:31:05.160><c> brands,</c><00:31:05.680><c> so</c><00:31:05.760><c> like</c><00:31:05.920><c> a</c><00:31:05.960><c> pet</c><00:31:06.160><c> food</c><00:31:06.360><c> shop</c>

00:31:06.590 --> 00:31:06.600 align:start position:0%
house of brands, so like a pet food shop
 

00:31:06.600 --> 00:31:08.910 align:start position:0%
house of brands, so like a pet food shop
or<00:31:06.680><c> a</c><00:31:06.720><c> department</c><00:31:07.160><c> store,</c><00:31:07.920><c> you</c><00:31:08.200><c> what</c><00:31:08.400><c> you</c><00:31:08.520><c> find</c>

00:31:08.910 --> 00:31:08.920 align:start position:0%
or a department store, you what you find
 

00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:10.190 align:start position:0%
or a department store, you what you find
and<00:31:09.000><c> what</c><00:31:09.120><c> you</c><00:31:09.200><c> can</c><00:31:09.280><c> probably</c><00:31:09.520><c> smell</c><00:31:09.840><c> a</c><00:31:10.040><c> mile</c>

00:31:10.190 --> 00:31:10.200 align:start position:0%
and what you can probably smell a mile
 

00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:13.110 align:start position:0%
and what you can probably smell a mile
away,<00:31:11.120><c> maybe</c><00:31:11.400><c> consumers</c><00:31:11.880><c> can't,</c><00:31:12.240><c> but</c><00:31:12.960><c> uh</c><00:31:13.000><c> so</c>

00:31:13.110 --> 00:31:13.120 align:start position:0%
away, maybe consumers can't, but uh so
 

00:31:13.120 --> 00:31:15.150 align:start position:0%
away, maybe consumers can't, but uh so
this<00:31:13.320><c> whole</c><00:31:13.520><c> program</c><00:31:13.960><c> is</c><00:31:14.080><c> not</c><00:31:14.320><c> about</c><00:31:15.000><c> it's</c>

00:31:15.150 --> 00:31:15.160 align:start position:0%
this whole program is not about it's
 

00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:16.910 align:start position:0%
this whole program is not about it's
becoming<00:31:15.520><c> a</c><00:31:15.600><c> retail</c><00:31:15.960><c> media</c><00:31:16.360><c> program</c><00:31:16.800><c> as</c>

00:31:16.910 --> 00:31:16.920 align:start position:0%
becoming a retail media program as
 

00:31:16.920 --> 00:31:18.430 align:start position:0%
becoming a retail media program as
opposed<00:31:17.240><c> to</c><00:31:17.320><c> a</c><00:31:17.360><c> loyalty</c><00:31:17.720><c> program.</c><00:31:18.080><c> So,</c><00:31:18.240><c> we're</c>

00:31:18.430 --> 00:31:18.440 align:start position:0%
opposed to a loyalty program. So, we're
 

00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:20.510 align:start position:0%
opposed to a loyalty program. So, we're
saying<00:31:19.160><c> so</c><00:31:19.280><c> when</c><00:31:19.400><c> I</c><00:31:19.440><c> go</c><00:31:19.560><c> to</c><00:31:19.640><c> some</c><00:31:20.120><c> like</c><00:31:20.280><c> a</c><00:31:20.320><c> pet</c>

00:31:20.510 --> 00:31:20.520 align:start position:0%
saying so when I go to some like a pet
 

00:31:20.520 --> 00:31:22.590 align:start position:0%
saying so when I go to some like a pet
food<00:31:20.720><c> store</c><00:31:21.040><c> and</c><00:31:21.280><c> I</c><00:31:21.400><c> see</c><00:31:22.120><c> I</c><00:31:22.160><c> can</c><00:31:22.240><c> get</c><00:31:22.360><c> double</c>

00:31:22.590 --> 00:31:22.600 align:start position:0%
food store and I see I can get double
 

00:31:22.600 --> 00:31:24.150 align:start position:0%
food store and I see I can get double
points<00:31:22.880><c> on</c><00:31:23.000><c> this</c><00:31:23.200><c> but</c><00:31:23.360><c> not</c><00:31:23.560><c> on</c><00:31:23.640><c> the</c><00:31:23.720><c> one</c><00:31:23.880><c> that</c><00:31:24.080><c> I</c>

00:31:24.150 --> 00:31:24.160 align:start position:0%
points on this but not on the one that I
 

00:31:24.160 --> 00:31:26.870 align:start position:0%
points on this but not on the one that I
buy,<00:31:24.560><c> it's</c><00:31:24.760><c> because</c><00:31:25.480><c> that</c><00:31:26.320><c> that</c><00:31:26.480><c> particular</c>

00:31:26.870 --> 00:31:26.880 align:start position:0%
buy, it's because that that particular
 

00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:28.870 align:start position:0%
buy, it's because that that particular
brand<00:31:27.240><c> is</c><00:31:27.400><c> funding</c><00:31:27.840><c> that</c><00:31:28.040><c> offer.</c><00:31:28.440><c> So,</c><00:31:28.640><c> all</c><00:31:28.800><c> of</c>

00:31:28.870 --> 00:31:28.880 align:start position:0%
brand is funding that offer. So, all of
 

00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:30.510 align:start position:0%
brand is funding that offer. So, all of
a<00:31:28.920><c> sudden</c><00:31:29.160><c> it</c><00:31:29.200><c> becomes</c><00:31:29.680><c> a</c>

00:31:30.510 --> 00:31:30.520 align:start position:0%
a sudden it becomes a
 

00:31:30.520 --> 00:31:32.030 align:start position:0%
a sudden it becomes a
you<00:31:30.560><c> know,</c><00:31:30.840><c> it's</c><00:31:31.000><c> more</c><00:31:31.200><c> about</c><00:31:31.560><c> a</c><00:31:31.720><c> a</c><00:31:31.760><c> set</c><00:31:31.960><c> of</c>

00:31:32.030 --> 00:31:32.040 align:start position:0%
you know, it's more about a a set of
 

00:31:32.040 --> 00:31:34.910 align:start position:0%
you know, it's more about a a set of
mechanics<00:31:32.520><c> to</c><00:31:32.680><c> sell</c><00:31:33.720><c> to</c><00:31:34.200><c> upstream</c><00:31:34.640><c> to</c><00:31:34.760><c> the</c>

00:31:34.910 --> 00:31:34.920 align:start position:0%
mechanics to sell to upstream to the
 

00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:36.310 align:start position:0%
mechanics to sell to upstream to the
suppliers

00:31:36.310 --> 00:31:36.320 align:start position:0%
suppliers
 

00:31:36.320 --> 00:31:38.550 align:start position:0%
suppliers
um<00:31:36.600><c> and</c><00:31:36.760><c> sell</c><00:31:37.040><c> my</c><00:31:37.200><c> customers</c><00:31:37.720><c> to</c><00:31:37.880><c> them</c><00:31:38.400><c> as</c>

00:31:38.550 --> 00:31:38.560 align:start position:0%
um and sell my customers to them as
 

00:31:38.560 --> 00:31:40.590 align:start position:0%
um and sell my customers to them as
opposed<00:31:39.000><c> to</c><00:31:39.160><c> looking</c><00:31:39.440><c> after</c><00:31:39.720><c> my</c><00:31:39.920><c> customers.</c>

00:31:40.590 --> 00:31:40.600 align:start position:0%
opposed to looking after my customers.
 

00:31:40.600 --> 00:31:43.670 align:start position:0%
opposed to looking after my customers.
So,<00:31:41.240><c> I</c><00:31:41.320><c> think</c><00:31:41.480><c> that</c><00:31:42.000><c> retail</c><00:31:42.440><c> media</c>

00:31:43.670 --> 00:31:43.680 align:start position:0%
So, I think that retail media
 

00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:44.790 align:start position:0%
So, I think that retail media
the<00:31:43.800><c> idea</c><00:31:44.080><c> that</c><00:31:44.200><c> you</c><00:31:44.280><c> know</c><00:31:44.400><c> what,</c><00:31:44.600><c> I'm</c><00:31:44.680><c> not</c>

00:31:44.790 --> 00:31:44.800 align:start position:0%
the idea that you know what, I'm not
 

00:31:44.800 --> 00:31:46.630 align:start position:0%
the idea that you know what, I'm not
interested<00:31:45.120><c> in</c><00:31:45.480><c> making</c><00:31:45.800><c> my</c><00:31:45.920><c> customers'</c><00:31:46.360><c> lives</c>

00:31:46.630 --> 00:31:46.640 align:start position:0%
interested in making my customers' lives
 

00:31:46.640 --> 00:31:48.790 align:start position:0%
interested in making my customers' lives
any<00:31:46.800><c> better,</c><00:31:47.040><c> I'm</c><00:31:47.120><c> interested</c><00:31:47.400><c> in</c><00:31:48.120><c> monetizing</c>

00:31:48.790 --> 00:31:48.800 align:start position:0%
any better, I'm interested in monetizing
 

00:31:48.800 --> 00:31:51.670 align:start position:0%
any better, I'm interested in monetizing
my<00:31:49.040><c> customers'</c><00:31:49.520><c> attention</c><00:31:50.680><c> to</c><00:31:51.120><c> the</c><00:31:51.320><c> people</c>

00:31:51.670 --> 00:31:51.680 align:start position:0%
my customers' attention to the people
 

00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:53.910 align:start position:0%
my customers' attention to the people
that<00:31:51.960><c> you</c><00:31:52.040><c> know,</c><00:31:52.120><c> maybe</c><00:31:52.800><c> would</c><00:31:53.360><c> buy</c><00:31:53.600><c> retail</c>

00:31:53.910 --> 00:31:53.920 align:start position:0%
that you know, maybe would buy retail
 

00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:56.350 align:start position:0%
that you know, maybe would buy retail
media<00:31:54.240><c> space</c><00:31:54.640><c> or</c><00:31:55.360><c> or</c><00:31:55.680><c> or</c><00:31:55.800><c> you</c><00:31:55.880><c> know,</c><00:31:56.000><c> fund</c><00:31:56.320><c> the</c>

00:31:56.350 --> 00:31:56.360 align:start position:0%
media space or or or you know, fund the
 

00:31:56.360 --> 00:31:57.630 align:start position:0%
media space or or or you know, fund the
discounts<00:31:56.920><c> so</c><00:31:57.000><c> I</c><00:31:57.040><c> don't</c><00:31:57.160><c> have</c><00:31:57.240><c> to</c><00:31:57.320><c> fund</c><00:31:57.520><c> them</c>

00:31:57.630 --> 00:31:57.640 align:start position:0%
discounts so I don't have to fund them
 

00:31:57.640 --> 00:31:59.550 align:start position:0%
discounts so I don't have to fund them
myself.<00:31:58.200><c> I</c><00:31:58.240><c> think</c><00:31:58.440><c> once</c><00:31:58.640><c> you</c><00:31:58.800><c> get</c><00:31:59.120><c> really</c><00:31:59.320><c> deep</c>

00:31:59.550 --> 00:31:59.560 align:start position:0%
myself. I think once you get really deep
 

00:31:59.560 --> 00:32:01.430 align:start position:0%
myself. I think once you get really deep
in<00:31:59.720><c> it's</c><00:32:00.240><c> it's</c><00:32:00.400><c> appealing</c><00:32:00.920><c> and</c><00:32:01.080><c> you</c><00:32:01.200><c> probably</c>

00:32:01.430 --> 00:32:01.440 align:start position:0%
in it's it's appealing and you probably
 

00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:02.950 align:start position:0%
in it's it's appealing and you probably
have<00:32:01.640><c> to</c><00:32:01.760><c> do</c><00:32:01.920><c> it</c>

00:32:02.950 --> 00:32:02.960 align:start position:0%
have to do it
 

00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:04.790 align:start position:0%
have to do it
mechanically,<00:32:03.680><c> you</c><00:32:03.760><c> probably</c><00:32:04.000><c> have</c><00:32:04.240><c> to,</c><00:32:04.480><c> but</c>

00:32:04.790 --> 00:32:04.800 align:start position:0%
mechanically, you probably have to, but
 

00:32:04.800 --> 00:32:06.630 align:start position:0%
mechanically, you probably have to, but
I<00:32:04.880><c> just</c><00:32:05.200><c> feel</c><00:32:05.440><c> like</c><00:32:05.600><c> if</c><00:32:05.680><c> that's</c><00:32:05.920><c> the</c><00:32:06.280><c> guts</c><00:32:06.560><c> of</c>

00:32:06.630 --> 00:32:06.640 align:start position:0%
I just feel like if that's the guts of
 

00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:08.470 align:start position:0%
I just feel like if that's the guts of
your<00:32:06.760><c> loyalty</c><00:32:07.040><c> program,</c><00:32:07.520><c> then</c><00:32:07.960><c> yeah,</c><00:32:08.240><c> it's</c>

00:32:08.470 --> 00:32:08.480 align:start position:0%
your loyalty program, then yeah, it's
 

00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:09.750 align:start position:0%
your loyalty program, then yeah, it's
it's<00:32:08.680><c> pretty</c><00:32:08.880><c> soulless</c><00:32:09.280><c> from</c><00:32:09.400><c> a</c><00:32:09.440><c> customer</c>

00:32:09.750 --> 00:32:09.760 align:start position:0%
it's pretty soulless from a customer
 

00:32:09.760 --> 00:32:11.390 align:start position:0%
it's pretty soulless from a customer
experience<00:32:10.160><c> point</c><00:32:10.320><c> of</c><00:32:10.400><c> view.</c>

00:32:11.390 --> 00:32:11.400 align:start position:0%
experience point of view.
 

00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:13.310 align:start position:0%
experience point of view.
&gt;&gt; Yeah,<00:32:11.720><c> no,</c><00:32:12.120><c> absolutely</c><00:32:12.840><c> and</c><00:32:13.040><c> yeah,</c><00:32:13.200><c> you've</c>

00:32:13.310 --> 00:32:13.320 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Yeah, no, absolutely and yeah, you've
 

00:32:13.320 --> 00:32:15.430 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Yeah, no, absolutely and yeah, you've
got<00:32:13.440><c> to</c><00:32:13.480><c> keep</c><00:32:13.760><c> it</c><00:32:13.880><c> fresh,</c><00:32:14.200><c> keep</c><00:32:14.440><c> it</c><00:32:14.520><c> engaged,</c>

00:32:15.430 --> 00:32:15.440 align:start position:0%
got to keep it fresh, keep it engaged,
 

00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:17.470 align:start position:0%
got to keep it fresh, keep it engaged,
keep<00:32:15.720><c> it</c><00:32:16.280><c> yeah,</c><00:32:16.520><c> simple</c><00:32:16.920><c> for</c><00:32:17.080><c> people</c><00:32:17.360><c> to</c>

00:32:17.470 --> 00:32:17.480 align:start position:0%
keep it yeah, simple for people to
 

00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:19.990 align:start position:0%
keep it yeah, simple for people to
understand<00:32:18.200><c> and</c><00:32:18.320><c> then</c><00:32:18.720><c> it's</c><00:32:19.200><c> also</c><00:32:19.520><c> simple</c><00:32:19.880><c> for</c>

00:32:19.990 --> 00:32:20.000 align:start position:0%
understand and then it's also simple for
 

00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:21.710 align:start position:0%
understand and then it's also simple for
the<00:32:20.080><c> marketing</c><00:32:20.560><c> team</c><00:32:20.840><c> to</c><00:32:20.960><c> then</c><00:32:21.480><c> keep</c>

00:32:21.710 --> 00:32:21.720 align:start position:0%
the marketing team to then keep
 

00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:23.350 align:start position:0%
the marketing team to then keep
innovating<00:32:22.200><c> and</c><00:32:22.320><c> doing</c><00:32:22.600><c> new</c><00:32:22.800><c> stuff,</c><00:32:23.120><c> isn't</c>

00:32:23.350 --> 00:32:23.360 align:start position:0%
innovating and doing new stuff, isn't
 

00:32:23.360 --> 00:32:24.150 align:start position:0%
innovating and doing new stuff, isn't
it?

00:32:24.150 --> 00:32:24.160 align:start position:0%
it?
 

00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:25.510 align:start position:0%
it?
&gt;&gt; Yeah,<00:32:24.320><c> well,</c><00:32:24.440><c> they</c><00:32:24.560><c> can</c><00:32:24.720><c> they</c><00:32:25.160><c> I</c><00:32:25.200><c> mean,</c><00:32:25.360><c> they</c>

00:32:25.510 --> 00:32:25.520 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Yeah, well, they can they I mean, they
 

00:32:25.520 --> 00:32:26.950 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Yeah, well, they can they I mean, they
still<00:32:25.760><c> have</c><00:32:25.920><c> their</c><00:32:26.080><c> targets</c><00:32:26.480><c> to</c><00:32:26.600><c> hit.</c><00:32:26.800><c> So,</c><00:32:26.920><c> I</c>

00:32:26.950 --> 00:32:26.960 align:start position:0%
still have their targets to hit. So, I
 

00:32:26.960 --> 00:32:29.030 align:start position:0%
still have their targets to hit. So, I
get<00:32:27.200><c> that</c><00:32:27.440><c> they</c><00:32:27.680><c> need</c><00:32:27.960><c> tools</c><00:32:28.360><c> that</c><00:32:28.600><c> say</c><00:32:28.800><c> if</c><00:32:28.960><c> I</c>

00:32:29.030 --> 00:32:29.040 align:start position:0%
get that they need tools that say if I
 

00:32:29.040 --> 00:32:30.550 align:start position:0%
get that they need tools that say if I
need<00:32:29.200><c> to</c><00:32:29.400><c> hit</c><00:32:29.560><c> a</c><00:32:29.600><c> sales</c><00:32:29.960><c> target</c><00:32:30.240><c> or</c><00:32:30.320><c> if</c><00:32:30.400><c> I</c><00:32:30.440><c> need</c>

00:32:30.550 --> 00:32:30.560 align:start position:0%
need to hit a sales target or if I need
 

00:32:30.560 --> 00:32:32.590 align:start position:0%
need to hit a sales target or if I need
to<00:32:30.600><c> move</c><00:32:31.040><c> some</c><00:32:31.200><c> stock</c><00:32:31.640><c> or</c><00:32:32.000><c> whatever,</c><00:32:32.400><c> like</c>

00:32:32.590 --> 00:32:32.600 align:start position:0%
to move some stock or whatever, like
 

00:32:32.600 --> 00:32:34.710 align:start position:0%
to move some stock or whatever, like
they<00:32:33.120><c> they</c><00:32:33.280><c> need</c><00:32:33.600><c> to</c><00:32:34.000><c> have</c><00:32:34.240><c> access</c><00:32:34.520><c> to</c><00:32:34.640><c> the</c>

00:32:34.710 --> 00:32:34.720 align:start position:0%
they they need to have access to the
 

00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:36.510 align:start position:0%
they they need to have access to the
customers<00:32:35.200><c> to</c><00:32:35.320><c> pull</c><00:32:35.640><c> them</c><00:32:35.800><c> in</c><00:32:35.960><c> to</c><00:32:36.080><c> solve</c><00:32:36.320><c> these</c>

00:32:36.510 --> 00:32:36.520 align:start position:0%
customers to pull them in to solve these
 

00:32:36.520 --> 00:32:39.670 align:start position:0%
customers to pull them in to solve these
problems,<00:32:37.200><c> but</c><00:32:37.560><c> my</c><00:32:37.800><c> thesis</c><00:32:38.240><c> is</c><00:32:38.400><c> if</c><00:32:38.560><c> you</c><00:32:38.760><c> just</c>

00:32:39.670 --> 00:32:39.680 align:start position:0%
problems, but my thesis is if you just
 

00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:41.990 align:start position:0%
problems, but my thesis is if you just
help<00:32:39.840><c> them</c><00:32:40.000><c> shop,</c><00:32:40.400><c> just</c><00:32:40.640><c> like</c><00:32:41.400><c> they</c><00:32:41.560><c> will</c><00:32:41.760><c> turn</c>

00:32:41.990 --> 00:32:42.000 align:start position:0%
help them shop, just like they will turn
 

00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:43.470 align:start position:0%
help them shop, just like they will turn
up<00:32:42.120><c> enough</c><00:32:42.520><c> and</c><00:32:42.640><c> then</c><00:32:42.760><c> all</c><00:32:42.880><c> of</c><00:32:42.960><c> a</c><00:32:43.000><c> sudden</c><00:32:43.320><c> all</c>

00:32:43.470 --> 00:32:43.480 align:start position:0%
up enough and then all of a sudden all
 

00:32:43.480 --> 00:32:45.390 align:start position:0%
up enough and then all of a sudden all
those<00:32:44.160><c> big</c><00:32:44.360><c> problems</c><00:32:44.760><c> you're</c><00:32:44.840><c> trying</c><00:32:45.080><c> to</c><00:32:45.160><c> fix</c>

00:32:45.390 --> 00:32:45.400 align:start position:0%
those big problems you're trying to fix
 

00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:46.590 align:start position:0%
those big problems you're trying to fix
and<00:32:45.520><c> those</c><00:32:45.680><c> targets,</c><00:32:46.080><c> maybe</c><00:32:46.280><c> they'll</c><00:32:46.400><c> just</c>

00:32:46.590 --> 00:32:46.600 align:start position:0%
and those targets, maybe they'll just
 

00:32:46.600 --> 00:32:48.150 align:start position:0%
and those targets, maybe they'll just
look<00:32:46.800><c> after</c><00:32:47.080><c> themselves</c><00:32:47.640><c> more</c><00:32:47.800><c> because</c>

00:32:48.150 --> 00:32:48.160 align:start position:0%
look after themselves more because
 

00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:49.870 align:start position:0%
look after themselves more because
you've<00:32:48.480><c> got</c><00:32:48.680><c> an</c><00:32:48.840><c> army</c><00:32:49.120><c> of</c><00:32:49.240><c> people</c><00:32:49.600><c> that</c><00:32:49.760><c> will</c>

00:32:49.870 --> 00:32:49.880 align:start position:0%
you've got an army of people that will
 

00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:52.470 align:start position:0%
you've got an army of people that will
choose<00:32:50.280><c> you</c><00:32:50.440><c> first</c><00:32:50.880><c> always</c><00:32:51.800><c> and</c><00:32:51.960><c> choose</c><00:32:52.320><c> you</c>

00:32:52.470 --> 00:32:52.480 align:start position:0%
choose you first always and choose you
 

00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:54.590 align:start position:0%
choose you first always and choose you
sooner<00:32:53.200><c> because</c><00:32:53.600><c> you've</c><00:32:54.280><c> you</c><00:32:54.360><c> go</c><00:32:54.480><c> and</c><00:32:54.560><c> you</c>

00:32:54.590 --> 00:32:54.600 align:start position:0%
sooner because you've you go and you
 

00:32:54.600 --> 00:32:56.430 align:start position:0%
sooner because you've you go and you
know<00:32:54.720><c> what?</c><00:32:54.840><c> Don't</c><00:32:55.040><c> wait</c><00:32:55.240><c> 3</c><00:32:55.440><c> weeks</c><00:32:55.720><c> to</c><00:32:56.120><c> buy</c><00:32:56.320><c> it,</c>

00:32:56.430 --> 00:32:56.440 align:start position:0%
know what? Don't wait 3 weeks to buy it,
 

00:32:56.440 --> 00:32:58.990 align:start position:0%
know what? Don't wait 3 weeks to buy it,
buy<00:32:56.600><c> it</c><00:32:56.720><c> now.</c><00:32:57.200><c> Like</c><00:32:57.320><c> come</c><00:32:57.440><c> in</c><00:32:57.600><c> now.</c><00:32:58.000><c> Why</c><00:32:58.160><c> wait?</c>

00:32:58.990 --> 00:32:59.000 align:start position:0%
buy it now. Like come in now. Why wait?
 

00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:00.230 align:start position:0%
buy it now. Like come in now. Why wait?
There's<00:32:59.080><c> so</c><00:32:59.200><c> many</c><00:32:59.400><c> brands</c><00:32:59.720><c> right</c><00:32:59.960><c> now,</c><00:33:00.200><c> I</c>

00:33:00.230 --> 00:33:00.240 align:start position:0%
There's so many brands right now, I
 

00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:02.110 align:start position:0%
There's so many brands right now, I
won't<00:33:00.440><c> name</c><00:33:00.680><c> them,</c><00:33:00.840><c> but</c><00:33:01.440><c> you</c><00:33:01.680><c> you</c><00:33:01.800><c> probably</c>

00:33:02.110 --> 00:33:02.120 align:start position:0%
won't name them, but you you probably
 

00:33:02.120 --> 00:33:05.190 align:start position:0%
won't name them, but you you probably
can<00:33:02.640><c> name</c><00:33:02.880><c> them</c><00:33:03.000><c> yourselves,</c><00:33:04.120><c> that</c><00:33:04.720><c> I</c><00:33:04.920><c> think</c>

00:33:05.190 --> 00:33:05.200 align:start position:0%
can name them yourselves, that I think
 

00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:07.270 align:start position:0%
can name them yourselves, that I think
to<00:33:05.320><c> myself,</c><00:33:05.920><c> oh,</c><00:33:06.400><c> I</c><00:33:06.440><c> need</c><00:33:06.560><c> to</c><00:33:06.640><c> get</c><00:33:06.760><c> that</c><00:33:07.240><c> you</c>

00:33:07.270 --> 00:33:07.280 align:start position:0%
to myself, oh, I need to get that you
 

00:33:07.280 --> 00:33:09.190 align:start position:0%
to myself, oh, I need to get that you
know,<00:33:07.440><c> cushion</c><00:33:07.840><c> or</c><00:33:08.080><c> some</c><00:33:08.360><c> some</c><00:33:08.600><c> tableware</c><00:33:09.120><c> or</c>

00:33:09.190 --> 00:33:09.200 align:start position:0%
know, cushion or some some tableware or
 

00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:10.150 align:start position:0%
know, cushion or some some tableware or
something.<00:33:09.480><c> I</c><00:33:09.520><c> go,</c>

00:33:10.150 --> 00:33:10.160 align:start position:0%
something. I go,
 

00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:12.230 align:start position:0%
something. I go,
you<00:33:10.200><c> know</c><00:33:10.760><c> I</c><00:33:10.880><c> need</c><00:33:11.040><c> to</c><00:33:11.160><c> wait</c><00:33:11.440><c> because</c><00:33:11.720><c> I</c><00:33:11.800><c> know</c>

00:33:12.230 --> 00:33:12.240 align:start position:0%
you know I need to wait because I know
 

00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:14.590 align:start position:0%
you know I need to wait because I know
that<00:33:12.840><c> on</c><00:33:13.360><c> usually</c><00:33:13.680><c> three</c><00:33:13.920><c> times</c><00:33:14.200><c> a</c><00:33:14.240><c> year</c><00:33:14.440><c> they</c>

00:33:14.590 --> 00:33:14.600 align:start position:0%
that on usually three times a year they
 

00:33:14.600 --> 00:33:16.990 align:start position:0%
that on usually three times a year they
go<00:33:14.840><c> on</c><00:33:14.920><c> this</c><00:33:15.080><c> particular</c><00:33:15.560><c> spend</c>

00:33:16.990 --> 00:33:17.000 align:start position:0%
go on this particular spend
 

00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:17.790 align:start position:0%
go on this particular spend
I'm<00:33:17.040><c> not</c><00:33:17.120><c> going</c><00:33:17.240><c> to</c><00:33:17.280><c> say</c><00:33:17.400><c> the</c><00:33:17.480><c> name</c><00:33:17.680><c> of</c><00:33:17.720><c> the</c>

00:33:17.790 --> 00:33:17.800 align:start position:0%
I'm not going to say the name of the
 

00:33:17.800 --> 00:33:19.390 align:start position:0%
I'm not going to say the name of the
campaign,<00:33:18.240><c> but</c><00:33:18.720><c> they'll</c><00:33:18.840><c> go</c><00:33:18.920><c> on</c><00:33:19.000><c> a</c><00:33:19.040><c> particular</c>

00:33:19.390 --> 00:33:19.400 align:start position:0%
campaign, but they'll go on a particular
 

00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:21.310 align:start position:0%
campaign, but they'll go on a particular
campaign<00:33:20.040><c> and</c><00:33:20.200><c> that's</c><00:33:20.440><c> when</c><00:33:20.600><c> I</c><00:33:20.680><c> shop</c><00:33:20.960><c> cuz</c><00:33:21.080><c> as</c><00:33:21.240><c> a</c>

00:33:21.310 --> 00:33:21.320 align:start position:0%
campaign and that's when I shop cuz as a
 

00:33:21.320 --> 00:33:23.430 align:start position:0%
campaign and that's when I shop cuz as a
one<00:33:21.480><c> of</c><00:33:21.560><c> their</c><00:33:21.680><c> loyal</c><00:33:22.040><c> customers,</c><00:33:23.040><c> I</c><00:33:23.160><c> would</c><00:33:23.320><c> be</c>

00:33:23.430 --> 00:33:23.440 align:start position:0%
one of their loyal customers, I would be
 

00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:25.750 align:start position:0%
one of their loyal customers, I would be
stupid<00:33:24.240><c> to</c><00:33:24.360><c> buy</c><00:33:24.640><c> it</c><00:33:24.840><c> outside</c><00:33:25.360><c> of</c><00:33:25.520><c> their</c>

00:33:25.750 --> 00:33:25.760 align:start position:0%
stupid to buy it outside of their
 

00:33:25.760 --> 00:33:28.230 align:start position:0%
stupid to buy it outside of their
promotional<00:33:26.280><c> calendar.</c><00:33:26.720><c> So</c><00:33:26.920><c> I</c><00:33:26.960><c> need</c><00:33:27.080><c> to</c><00:33:27.200><c> wait.</c>

00:33:28.230 --> 00:33:28.240 align:start position:0%
promotional calendar. So I need to wait.
 

00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:29.630 align:start position:0%
promotional calendar. So I need to wait.
And<00:33:28.480><c> Black</c><00:33:28.720><c> Friday's</c><00:33:29.080><c> the</c><00:33:29.160><c> same.</c><00:33:29.400><c> I'm</c><00:33:29.480><c> not</c>

00:33:29.630 --> 00:33:29.640 align:start position:0%
And Black Friday's the same. I'm not
 

00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:31.390 align:start position:0%
And Black Friday's the same. I'm not
someone<00:33:29.880><c> that</c><00:33:30.000><c> would</c><00:33:30.120><c> buy</c><00:33:30.320><c> on</c><00:33:30.440><c> sale,</c><00:33:30.840><c> but</c>

00:33:31.390 --> 00:33:31.400 align:start position:0%
someone that would buy on sale, but
 

00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:33.470 align:start position:0%
someone that would buy on sale, but
we're<00:33:31.560><c> getting</c><00:33:31.840><c> now</c><00:33:32.040><c> to</c><00:33:32.160><c> July,</c><00:33:32.520><c> August.</c>

00:33:33.470 --> 00:33:33.480 align:start position:0%
we're getting now to July, August.
 

00:33:33.480 --> 00:33:35.030 align:start position:0%
we're getting now to July, August.
Everyone<00:33:33.800><c> stop</c><00:33:34.040><c> buying</c><00:33:34.440><c> and</c><00:33:34.560><c> we</c><00:33:34.640><c> all</c><00:33:34.760><c> just</c>

00:33:35.030 --> 00:33:35.040 align:start position:0%
Everyone stop buying and we all just
 

00:33:35.040 --> 00:33:36.470 align:start position:0%
Everyone stop buying and we all just
wait,<00:33:35.240><c> right?</c><00:33:35.400><c> All</c><00:33:35.480><c> those</c><00:33:35.640><c> big</c><00:33:35.800><c> purchases,</c><00:33:36.360><c> we</c>

00:33:36.470 --> 00:33:36.480 align:start position:0%
wait, right? All those big purchases, we
 

00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:38.270 align:start position:0%
wait, right? All those big purchases, we
stop<00:33:36.800><c> buying</c><00:33:37.120><c> now</c><00:33:37.320><c> and</c><00:33:37.440><c> we</c><00:33:37.600><c> wait.</c><00:33:37.880><c> And</c><00:33:38.000><c> like</c>

00:33:38.270 --> 00:33:38.280 align:start position:0%
stop buying now and we wait. And like
 

00:33:38.280 --> 00:33:39.190 align:start position:0%
stop buying now and we wait. And like
what<00:33:38.400><c> a</c>

00:33:39.190 --> 00:33:39.200 align:start position:0%
what a
 

00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:40.670 align:start position:0%
what a
what<00:33:39.280><c> a</c><00:33:39.320><c> crazy</c><00:33:39.800><c> thing</c><00:33:39.960><c> the</c><00:33:40.040><c> industry's</c><00:33:40.440><c> done</c>

00:33:40.670 --> 00:33:40.680 align:start position:0%
what a crazy thing the industry's done
 

00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:42.150 align:start position:0%
what a crazy thing the industry's done
to<00:33:40.800><c> train</c><00:33:41.120><c> us</c><00:33:41.600><c> um</c>

00:33:42.150 --> 00:33:42.160 align:start position:0%
to train us um
 

00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:44.230 align:start position:0%
to train us um
into<00:33:42.520><c> all</c><00:33:42.720><c> waiting</c><00:33:43.440><c> for</c><00:33:43.680><c> this</c><00:33:43.840><c> particular</c>

00:33:44.230 --> 00:33:44.240 align:start position:0%
into all waiting for this particular
 

00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:45.630 align:start position:0%
into all waiting for this particular
sale<00:33:44.520><c> period.</c>

00:33:45.630 --> 00:33:45.640 align:start position:0%
sale period.
 

00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:47.790 align:start position:0%
sale period.
&gt;&gt; Yeah,<00:33:45.960><c> it's</c><00:33:46.200><c> a</c><00:33:46.320><c> race</c><00:33:47.120><c> it's</c><00:33:47.240><c> a</c><00:33:47.280><c> race</c><00:33:47.600><c> to</c><00:33:47.720><c> the</c>

00:33:47.790 --> 00:33:47.800 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Yeah, it's a race it's a race to the
 

00:33:47.800 --> 00:33:48.830 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Yeah, it's a race it's a race to the
bottom.<00:33:48.120><c> That</c><00:33:48.200><c> was</c><00:33:48.360><c> going</c><00:33:48.480><c> to</c><00:33:48.560><c> actually</c><00:33:48.720><c> be</c>

00:33:48.830 --> 00:33:48.840 align:start position:0%
bottom. That was going to actually be
 

00:33:48.840 --> 00:33:50.190 align:start position:0%
bottom. That was going to actually be
the<00:33:48.920><c> next</c><00:33:49.200><c> thing</c><00:33:49.360><c> I</c><00:33:49.400><c> asked</c><00:33:49.680><c> you</c><00:33:49.720><c> about</c><00:33:49.960><c> anyway</c>

00:33:50.190 --> 00:33:50.200 align:start position:0%
the next thing I asked you about anyway
 

00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:51.710 align:start position:0%
the next thing I asked you about anyway
was<00:33:50.480><c> the</c><00:33:50.600><c> Black</c><00:33:50.880><c> Friday.</c><00:33:51.120><c> Like</c><00:33:51.280><c> where</c><00:33:51.480><c> are</c><00:33:51.560><c> we</c>

00:33:51.710 --> 00:33:51.720 align:start position:0%
was the Black Friday. Like where are we
 

00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:53.950 align:start position:0%
was the Black Friday. Like where are we
heading<00:33:52.000><c> with</c><00:33:52.160><c> that</c><00:33:52.400><c> this</c><00:33:52.640><c> year</c><00:33:52.840><c> because</c><00:33:53.720><c> it</c>

00:33:53.950 --> 00:33:53.960 align:start position:0%
heading with that this year because it
 

00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:55.750 align:start position:0%
heading with that this year because it
gets<00:33:54.280><c> earlier</c><00:33:54.720><c> and</c><00:33:54.840><c> earlier,</c><00:33:55.200><c> longer</c><00:33:55.640><c> and</c>

00:33:55.750 --> 00:33:55.760 align:start position:0%
gets earlier and earlier, longer and
 

00:33:55.760 --> 00:33:58.070 align:start position:0%
gets earlier and earlier, longer and
longer,<00:33:56.160><c> the</c><00:33:56.280><c> discounts</c><00:33:57.040><c> have</c><00:33:57.240><c> to</c><00:33:57.360><c> be</c><00:33:57.680><c> bigger</c>

00:33:58.070 --> 00:33:58.080 align:start position:0%
longer, the discounts have to be bigger
 

00:33:58.080 --> 00:34:00.190 align:start position:0%
longer, the discounts have to be bigger
and<00:33:58.240><c> bigger</c><00:33:58.560><c> to</c><00:33:58.680><c> get</c><00:33:58.960><c> customers'</c><00:33:59.480><c> attention.</c>

00:34:00.190 --> 00:34:00.200 align:start position:0%
and bigger to get customers' attention.
 

00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:03.390 align:start position:0%
and bigger to get customers' attention.
Like<00:34:00.800><c> what's</c><00:34:01.080><c> a</c><00:34:01.480><c> I</c><00:34:01.560><c> I</c><00:34:02.040><c> if</c><00:34:02.360><c> I</c><00:34:02.520><c> was</c><00:34:02.720><c> a</c><00:34:02.800><c> retailer,</c>

00:34:03.390 --> 00:34:03.400 align:start position:0%
Like what's a I I if I was a retailer,
 

00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:05.110 align:start position:0%
Like what's a I I if I was a retailer,
I'd<00:34:03.520><c> actually</c><00:34:03.920><c> be</c><00:34:04.160><c> really</c><00:34:04.520><c> struggling</c><00:34:05.000><c> to</c>

00:34:05.110 --> 00:34:05.120 align:start position:0%
I'd actually be really struggling to
 

00:34:05.120 --> 00:34:07.350 align:start position:0%
I'd actually be really struggling to
think<00:34:05.320><c> of</c><00:34:05.440><c> an</c><00:34:05.800><c> innovative</c><00:34:06.320><c> strategy</c><00:34:06.960><c> for</c><00:34:07.280><c> it</c>

00:34:07.350 --> 00:34:07.360 align:start position:0%
think of an innovative strategy for it
 

00:34:07.360 --> 00:34:07.870 align:start position:0%
think of an innovative strategy for it
this<00:34:07.600><c> year.</c>

00:34:07.870 --> 00:34:07.880 align:start position:0%
this year.
 

00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:10.790 align:start position:0%
this year.
&gt;&gt; Oh,<00:34:07.960><c> look</c><00:34:08.800><c> like</c><00:34:09.120><c> personally,</c><00:34:09.800><c> I</c><00:34:09.919><c> just</c>

00:34:10.790 --> 00:34:10.800 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Oh, look like personally, I just
 

00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:11.710 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Oh, look like personally, I just
I<00:34:10.840><c> don't</c><00:34:11.000><c> want</c><00:34:11.120><c> to</c>

00:34:11.710 --> 00:34:11.720 align:start position:0%
I don't want to
 

00:34:11.720 --> 00:34:13.030 align:start position:0%
I don't want to
There's<00:34:11.960><c> so</c><00:34:12.120><c> many</c><00:34:12.280><c> people</c><00:34:12.480><c> throwing</c><00:34:12.760><c> so</c><00:34:12.879><c> much</c>

00:34:13.030 --> 00:34:13.040 align:start position:0%
There's so many people throwing so much
 

00:34:13.040 --> 00:34:14.550 align:start position:0%
There's so many people throwing so much
attention<00:34:13.399><c> at</c><00:34:13.520><c> it.</c><00:34:13.639><c> I</c><00:34:13.800><c> just</c><00:34:14.080><c> don't</c><00:34:14.200><c> want</c><00:34:14.320><c> to</c><00:34:14.399><c> be</c>

00:34:14.550 --> 00:34:14.560 align:start position:0%
attention at it. I just don't want to be
 

00:34:14.560 --> 00:34:16.909 align:start position:0%
attention at it. I just don't want to be
any<00:34:14.840><c> part</c><00:34:15.200><c> of</c><00:34:15.360><c> that</c><00:34:15.760><c> solution.</c><00:34:16.320><c> I'll</c><00:34:16.760><c> I'll</c>

00:34:16.909 --> 00:34:16.919 align:start position:0%
any part of that solution. I'll I'll
 

00:34:16.919 --> 00:34:19.270 align:start position:0%
any part of that solution. I'll I'll
give<00:34:17.200><c> you</c><00:34:17.879><c> customers</c><00:34:18.720><c> as</c><00:34:18.879><c> part</c><00:34:19.080><c> of</c><00:34:19.159><c> our</c>

00:34:19.270 --> 00:34:19.280 align:start position:0%
give you customers as part of our
 

00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:21.750 align:start position:0%
give you customers as part of our
platform<00:34:19.800><c> that</c><00:34:19.960><c> you</c><00:34:20.080><c> can</c><00:34:20.360><c> weaponize</c><00:34:20.960><c> and</c><00:34:21.520><c> beat</c>

00:34:21.750 --> 00:34:21.760 align:start position:0%
platform that you can weaponize and beat
 

00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:22.990 align:start position:0%
platform that you can weaponize and beat
over<00:34:21.919><c> the</c><00:34:22.000><c> head</c><00:34:22.159><c> with</c><00:34:22.320><c> all</c><00:34:22.440><c> your</c><00:34:22.560><c> offers</c><00:34:22.879><c> as</c>

00:34:22.990 --> 00:34:23.000 align:start position:0%
over the head with all your offers as
 

00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:24.510 align:start position:0%
over the head with all your offers as
soon<00:34:23.240><c> as</c><00:34:23.360><c> you</c><00:34:23.480><c> want</c><00:34:23.600><c> to</c><00:34:23.720><c> run</c><00:34:23.840><c> them.</c><00:34:24.159><c> Whatever.</c>

00:34:24.510 --> 00:34:24.520 align:start position:0%
soon as you want to run them. Whatever.
 

00:34:24.520 --> 00:34:26.190 align:start position:0%
soon as you want to run them. Whatever.
That's<00:34:24.720><c> got</c><00:34:24.879><c> nothing</c><00:34:25.120><c> to</c><00:34:25.240><c> do</c><00:34:25.399><c> with</c><00:34:25.560><c> me.</c><00:34:25.720><c> My</c><00:34:26.000><c> job</c>

00:34:26.190 --> 00:34:26.200 align:start position:0%
That's got nothing to do with me. My job
 

00:34:26.200 --> 00:34:27.430 align:start position:0%
That's got nothing to do with me. My job
is<00:34:26.320><c> to</c><00:34:26.399><c> make</c><00:34:26.600><c> sure</c><00:34:26.760><c> that</c><00:34:26.960><c> all</c><00:34:27.159><c> of</c><00:34:27.240><c> those</c>

00:34:27.430 --> 00:34:27.440 align:start position:0%
is to make sure that all of those
 

00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:28.790 align:start position:0%
is to make sure that all of those
customers<00:34:27.879><c> that</c><00:34:28.000><c> you're</c><00:34:28.080><c> about</c><00:34:28.320><c> to</c><00:34:28.399><c> beat</c><00:34:28.639><c> over</c>

00:34:28.790 --> 00:34:28.800 align:start position:0%
customers that you're about to beat over
 

00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:30.950 align:start position:0%
customers that you're about to beat over
the<00:34:28.879><c> head,</c><00:34:29.800><c> I'm</c><00:34:29.919><c> hoping</c><00:34:30.320><c> that</c><00:34:30.480><c> I</c><00:34:30.520><c> can</c><00:34:30.679><c> give</c>

00:34:30.950 --> 00:34:30.960 align:start position:0%
the head, I'm hoping that I can give
 

00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:33.350 align:start position:0%
the head, I'm hoping that I can give
them<00:34:31.080><c> enough</c><00:34:31.520><c> reasons</c><00:34:32.399><c> to</c><00:34:32.560><c> want</c><00:34:32.800><c> to</c><00:34:32.879><c> shop</c><00:34:33.159><c> with</c>

00:34:33.350 --> 00:34:33.360 align:start position:0%
them enough reasons to want to shop with
 

00:34:33.360 --> 00:34:35.590 align:start position:0%
them enough reasons to want to shop with
you<00:34:34.040><c> every</c><00:34:34.360><c> single</c><00:34:34.639><c> day</c><00:34:34.919><c> that</c><00:34:35.120><c> they're</c><00:34:35.360><c> like</c>

00:34:35.590 --> 00:34:35.600 align:start position:0%
you every single day that they're like
 

00:34:35.600 --> 00:34:36.950 align:start position:0%
you every single day that they're like
when<00:34:35.760><c> I've</c><00:34:35.879><c> got</c><00:34:36.000><c> a</c><00:34:36.080><c> problem</c><00:34:36.360><c> to</c><00:34:36.440><c> solve</c><00:34:36.840><c> that</c>

00:34:36.950 --> 00:34:36.960 align:start position:0%
when I've got a problem to solve that
 

00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:38.550 align:start position:0%
when I've got a problem to solve that
involves<00:34:37.360><c> your</c><00:34:37.520><c> product.</c>

00:34:38.550 --> 00:34:38.560 align:start position:0%
involves your product.
 

00:34:38.560 --> 00:34:38.909 align:start position:0%
involves your product.
&gt;&gt; Yeah.

00:34:38.909 --> 00:34:38.919 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Yeah.
 

00:34:38.919 --> 00:34:40.270 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Yeah.
&gt;&gt; I<00:34:38.960><c> will</c><00:34:39.120><c> choose</c><00:34:39.480><c> you</c><00:34:39.600><c> and</c><00:34:39.679><c> I'll</c><00:34:39.840><c> choose</c><00:34:40.159><c> you</c>

00:34:40.270 --> 00:34:40.280 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; I will choose you and I'll choose you
 

00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:43.190 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; I will choose you and I'll choose you
now<00:34:41.240><c> because</c><00:34:41.960><c> I</c><00:34:42.000><c> have</c><00:34:42.120><c> a</c><00:34:42.200><c> great</c><00:34:42.399><c> experience.</c>

00:34:43.190 --> 00:34:43.200 align:start position:0%
now because I have a great experience.
 

00:34:43.200 --> 00:34:44.389 align:start position:0%
now because I have a great experience.
I'll<00:34:43.320><c> pick</c><00:34:43.480><c> up</c><00:34:43.560><c> where</c><00:34:43.720><c> I</c><00:34:43.760><c> left</c><00:34:44.040><c> off.</c><00:34:44.240><c> They'll</c>

00:34:44.389 --> 00:34:44.399 align:start position:0%
I'll pick up where I left off. They'll
 

00:34:44.399 --> 00:34:45.510 align:start position:0%
I'll pick up where I left off. They'll
know<00:34:44.600><c> me.</c>

00:34:45.510 --> 00:34:45.520 align:start position:0%
know me.
 

00:34:45.520 --> 00:34:47.350 align:start position:0%
know me.
It'll<00:34:45.800><c> I'll</c><00:34:46.000><c> get</c><00:34:46.240><c> some</c><00:34:46.480><c> sort</c><00:34:46.679><c> of</c><00:34:46.760><c> incentive</c><00:34:47.240><c> to</c>

00:34:47.350 --> 00:34:47.360 align:start position:0%
It'll I'll get some sort of incentive to
 

00:34:47.360 --> 00:34:48.869 align:start position:0%
It'll I'll get some sort of incentive to
make<00:34:47.520><c> it</c><00:34:47.720><c> feel</c><00:34:47.960><c> like</c><00:34:48.120><c> I'm</c><00:34:48.200><c> not</c><00:34:48.360><c> just</c><00:34:48.520><c> paying</c>

00:34:48.869 --> 00:34:48.879 align:start position:0%
make it feel like I'm not just paying
 

00:34:48.879 --> 00:34:50.310 align:start position:0%
make it feel like I'm not just paying
full<00:34:49.080><c> price.</c><00:34:49.480><c> Like</c><00:34:49.639><c> I</c><00:34:49.800><c> I</c><00:34:49.879><c> feel</c><00:34:50.120><c> like</c><00:34:50.240><c> I'm</c>

00:34:50.310 --> 00:34:50.320 align:start position:0%
full price. Like I I feel like I'm
 

00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:52.990 align:start position:0%
full price. Like I I feel like I'm
getting<00:34:50.960><c> value,</c><00:34:52.000><c> but</c><00:34:52.240><c> really</c><00:34:52.560><c> work</c><00:34:52.840><c> on</c><00:34:52.919><c> the</c>

00:34:52.990 --> 00:34:53.000 align:start position:0%
getting value, but really work on the
 

00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:55.190 align:start position:0%
getting value, but really work on the
word<00:34:53.280><c> value,</c><00:34:53.639><c> not</c><00:34:53.840><c> a</c><00:34:53.879><c> deal.</c>

00:34:55.190 --> 00:34:55.200 align:start position:0%
word value, not a deal.
 

00:34:55.200 --> 00:34:56.950 align:start position:0%
word value, not a deal.
And<00:34:55.399><c> give</c><00:34:55.520><c> me</c><00:34:55.600><c> that</c><00:34:55.800><c> value</c><00:34:56.280><c> and</c><00:34:56.440><c> then</c><00:34:56.600><c> I</c><00:34:56.639><c> won't</c>

00:34:56.950 --> 00:34:56.960 align:start position:0%
And give me that value and then I won't
 

00:34:56.960 --> 00:34:58.630 align:start position:0%
And give me that value and then I won't
need<00:34:57.160><c> to</c><00:34:57.280><c> worry</c><00:34:57.520><c> about</c><00:34:58.240><c> you</c><00:34:58.320><c> know,</c><00:34:58.400><c> for</c><00:34:58.520><c> that</c>

00:34:58.630 --> 00:34:58.640 align:start position:0%
need to worry about you know, for that
 

00:34:58.640 --> 00:35:00.750 align:start position:0%
need to worry about you know, for that
other<00:34:58.840><c> brands,</c><00:34:59.400><c> definitely</c><00:34:59.680><c> not</c><00:35:00.280><c> waiting</c><00:35:00.640><c> for</c>

00:35:00.750 --> 00:35:00.760 align:start position:0%
other brands, definitely not waiting for
 

00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:02.870 align:start position:0%
other brands, definitely not waiting for
them<00:35:01.280><c> for</c><00:35:01.400><c> Black</c><00:35:01.640><c> Friday,</c><00:35:01.880><c> but</c><00:35:02.040><c> for</c><00:35:02.160><c> you,</c><00:35:02.840><c> I</c>

00:35:02.870 --> 00:35:02.880 align:start position:0%
them for Black Friday, but for you, I
 

00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:04.350 align:start position:0%
them for Black Friday, but for you, I
need<00:35:03.080><c> it</c><00:35:03.200><c> now</c><00:35:03.480><c> and</c><00:35:03.600><c> having</c><00:35:03.840><c> 3</c><00:35:04.040><c> months</c><00:35:04.280><c> of</c>

00:35:04.350 --> 00:35:04.360 align:start position:0%
need it now and having 3 months of
 

00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:05.590 align:start position:0%
need it now and having 3 months of
enjoyment<00:35:04.720><c> of</c><00:35:04.800><c> that</c><00:35:04.960><c> product,</c><00:35:05.280><c> I'm</c><00:35:05.360><c> actually</c>

00:35:05.590 --> 00:35:05.600 align:start position:0%
enjoyment of that product, I'm actually
 

00:35:05.600 --> 00:35:06.710 align:start position:0%
enjoyment of that product, I'm actually
going<00:35:05.720><c> to</c><00:35:05.800><c> really</c><00:35:05.960><c> appreciate</c><00:35:06.440><c> that.</c><00:35:06.600><c> So</c><00:35:06.680><c> I'm</c>

00:35:06.710 --> 00:35:06.720 align:start position:0%
going to really appreciate that. So I'm
 

00:35:06.720 --> 00:35:07.950 align:start position:0%
going to really appreciate that. So I'm
just<00:35:06.840><c> going</c><00:35:06.960><c> to</c><00:35:07.000><c> come</c><00:35:07.160><c> and</c><00:35:07.240><c> shop</c><00:35:07.400><c> with</c><00:35:07.560><c> you.</c>

00:35:07.950 --> 00:35:07.960 align:start position:0%
just going to come and shop with you.
 

00:35:07.960 --> 00:35:09.910 align:start position:0%
just going to come and shop with you.
&gt;&gt; Um<00:35:08.360><c> that's</c><00:35:08.640><c> the</c><00:35:08.720><c> sort</c><00:35:08.920><c> of</c><00:35:08.960><c> stuff</c><00:35:09.160><c> that</c><00:35:09.320><c> I'm</c><00:35:09.840><c> So</c>

00:35:09.910 --> 00:35:09.920 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Um that's the sort of stuff that I'm So
 

00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:11.150 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Um that's the sort of stuff that I'm So
I'm<00:35:10.040><c> trying</c><00:35:10.280><c> to</c><00:35:10.320><c> build</c><00:35:10.520><c> an</c><00:35:10.640><c> alternative.</c>

00:35:11.150 --> 00:35:11.160 align:start position:0%
I'm trying to build an alternative.
 

00:35:11.160 --> 00:35:11.470 align:start position:0%
I'm trying to build an alternative.
&gt;&gt; Yeah.

00:35:11.470 --> 00:35:11.480 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Yeah.
 

00:35:11.480 --> 00:35:13.550 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Yeah.
&gt;&gt; I'm<00:35:11.560><c> never</c><00:35:11.760><c> going</c><00:35:11.880><c> to</c><00:35:12.000><c> win.</c><00:35:12.360><c> Like</c><00:35:12.640><c> I</c><00:35:12.760><c> can't</c>

00:35:13.550 --> 00:35:13.560 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; I'm never going to win. Like I can't
 

00:35:13.560 --> 00:35:15.110 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; I'm never going to win. Like I can't
It's<00:35:13.840><c> the</c><00:35:14.000><c> force</c><00:35:14.280><c> of</c><00:35:14.400><c> gravity</c><00:35:14.800><c> on</c><00:35:14.920><c> Black</c>

00:35:15.110 --> 00:35:15.120 align:start position:0%
It's the force of gravity on Black
 

00:35:15.120 --> 00:35:17.070 align:start position:0%
It's the force of gravity on Black
Friday<00:35:15.440><c> is</c><00:35:15.520><c> just</c><00:35:15.720><c> too</c><00:35:15.880><c> huge,</c><00:35:16.760><c> but</c><00:35:16.880><c> there</c><00:35:17.000><c> are</c>

00:35:17.070 --> 00:35:17.080 align:start position:0%
Friday is just too huge, but there are
 

00:35:17.080 --> 00:35:18.550 align:start position:0%
Friday is just too huge, but there are
some<00:35:17.280><c> brands</c><00:35:17.560><c> out</c><00:35:17.680><c> Patagonia,</c><00:35:18.280><c> there's</c><00:35:18.440><c> some</c>

00:35:18.550 --> 00:35:18.560 align:start position:0%
some brands out Patagonia, there's some
 

00:35:18.560 --> 00:35:20.150 align:start position:0%
some brands out Patagonia, there's some
brands<00:35:18.840><c> out</c><00:35:18.960><c> there</c><00:35:19.120><c> that</c><00:35:19.280><c> don't</c><00:35:19.560><c> participate</c>

00:35:20.150 --> 00:35:20.160 align:start position:0%
brands out there that don't participate
 

00:35:20.160 --> 00:35:22.390 align:start position:0%
brands out there that don't participate
in<00:35:20.240><c> that.</c><00:35:21.000><c> And</c><00:35:21.600><c> you</c><00:35:21.680><c> know,</c><00:35:21.800><c> they're</c><00:35:21.960><c> not</c><00:35:22.120><c> part</c>

00:35:22.390 --> 00:35:22.400 align:start position:0%
in that. And you know, they're not part
 

00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:24.150 align:start position:0%
in that. And you know, they're not part
of<00:35:22.480><c> the</c><00:35:22.560><c> sort</c><00:35:22.680><c> of</c><00:35:22.760><c> blood</c><00:35:23.000><c> in</c><00:35:23.080><c> the</c><00:35:23.160><c> water</c><00:35:24.000><c> sort</c>

00:35:24.150 --> 00:35:24.160 align:start position:0%
of the sort of blood in the water sort
 

00:35:24.160 --> 00:35:26.110 align:start position:0%
of the sort of blood in the water sort
of<00:35:24.240><c> experience,</c><00:35:24.880><c> but</c><00:35:25.320><c> their</c><00:35:25.520><c> sales</c><00:35:26.000><c> are</c>

00:35:26.110 --> 00:35:26.120 align:start position:0%
of experience, but their sales are
 

00:35:26.120 --> 00:35:27.550 align:start position:0%
of experience, but their sales are
pretty<00:35:26.320><c> consistent</c><00:35:26.800><c> all</c><00:35:26.960><c> the</c><00:35:27.040><c> way</c><00:35:27.240><c> through</c>

00:35:27.550 --> 00:35:27.560 align:start position:0%
pretty consistent all the way through
 

00:35:27.560 --> 00:35:29.270 align:start position:0%
pretty consistent all the way through
and<00:35:27.720><c> they</c><00:35:28.200><c> and</c><00:35:28.360><c> their</c><00:35:28.480><c> margins</c><00:35:28.960><c> are</c><00:35:29.040><c> much</c>

00:35:29.270 --> 00:35:29.280 align:start position:0%
and they and their margins are much
 

00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:30.710 align:start position:0%
and they and their margins are much
higher.<00:35:29.640><c> So</c><00:35:29.800><c> they</c><00:35:29.960><c> just</c><00:35:30.160><c> get</c><00:35:30.320><c> to</c><00:35:30.400><c> hold</c><00:35:30.640><c> the</c>

00:35:30.710 --> 00:35:30.720 align:start position:0%
higher. So they just get to hold the
 

00:35:30.720 --> 00:35:32.590 align:start position:0%
higher. So they just get to hold the
line<00:35:31.040><c> and</c><00:35:31.160><c> not</c><00:35:31.480><c> get</c><00:35:31.840><c> caught</c><00:35:32.160><c> up</c><00:35:32.280><c> in</c><00:35:32.400><c> all</c><00:35:32.520><c> of</c>

00:35:32.590 --> 00:35:32.600 align:start position:0%
line and not get caught up in all of
 

00:35:32.600 --> 00:35:33.710 align:start position:0%
line and not get caught up in all of
that.

00:35:33.710 --> 00:35:33.720 align:start position:0%
that.
 

00:35:33.720 --> 00:35:35.470 align:start position:0%
that.
&gt;&gt; Yeah.<00:35:33.920><c> Yeah,</c><00:35:34.160><c> absolutely.</c><00:35:34.800><c> And</c><00:35:35.000><c> I</c><00:35:35.080><c> think</c><00:35:35.320><c> like</c>

00:35:35.470 --> 00:35:35.480 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And I think like
 

00:35:35.480 --> 00:35:37.150 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And I think like
all<00:35:35.640><c> the</c><00:35:35.760><c> stuff</c><00:35:36.000><c> we've</c><00:35:36.160><c> talked</c><00:35:36.520><c> about</c><00:35:36.800><c> today</c>

00:35:37.150 --> 00:35:37.160 align:start position:0%
all the stuff we've talked about today
 

00:35:37.160 --> 00:35:39.230 align:start position:0%
all the stuff we've talked about today
to<00:35:37.320><c> me</c><00:35:37.480><c> is</c><00:35:37.640><c> stuff</c><00:35:37.920><c> too</c><00:35:38.160><c> that</c><00:35:38.280><c> like</c><00:35:38.680><c> you</c><00:35:38.960><c> you</c><00:35:39.080><c> get</c>

00:35:39.230 --> 00:35:39.240 align:start position:0%
to me is stuff too that like you you get
 

00:35:39.240 --> 00:35:40.990 align:start position:0%
to me is stuff too that like you you get
a<00:35:39.280><c> lot</c><00:35:39.480><c> of</c><00:35:39.600><c> first</c><00:35:39.920><c> time</c><00:35:40.160><c> customers</c><00:35:40.720><c> around</c>

00:35:40.990 --> 00:35:41.000 align:start position:0%
a lot of first time customers around
 

00:35:41.000 --> 00:35:42.110 align:start position:0%
a lot of first time customers around
that<00:35:41.160><c> time</c><00:35:41.360><c> of</c><00:35:41.440><c> year</c><00:35:41.600><c> or</c><00:35:41.720><c> on</c><00:35:41.800><c> one-off</c>

00:35:42.110 --> 00:35:42.120 align:start position:0%
that time of year or on one-off
 

00:35:42.120 --> 00:35:45.110 align:start position:0%
that time of year or on one-off
customers.<00:35:43.200><c> And</c><00:35:43.800><c> you've</c><00:35:44.160><c> there's</c><00:35:44.400><c> 4</c><00:35:44.800><c> weeks</c>

00:35:45.110 --> 00:35:45.120 align:start position:0%
customers. And you've there's 4 weeks
 

00:35:45.120 --> 00:35:47.590 align:start position:0%
customers. And you've there's 4 weeks
between<00:35:45.840><c> Black</c><00:35:46.160><c> Friday</c><00:35:46.600><c> and</c><00:35:47.000><c> Christmas,</c>

00:35:47.590 --> 00:35:47.600 align:start position:0%
between Black Friday and Christmas,
 

00:35:47.600 --> 00:35:48.030 align:start position:0%
between Black Friday and Christmas,
which

00:35:48.030 --> 00:35:48.040 align:start position:0%
which
 

00:35:48.040 --> 00:35:48.390 align:start position:0%
which
&gt;&gt; Yeah.

00:35:48.390 --> 00:35:48.400 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Yeah.
 

00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:49.550 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Yeah.
&gt;&gt; there's<00:35:48.640><c> still</c><00:35:48.840><c> people</c><00:35:49.160><c> have</c><00:35:49.320><c> to</c><00:35:49.400><c> do</c>

00:35:49.550 --> 00:35:49.560 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; there's still people have to do
 

00:35:49.560 --> 00:35:51.430 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; there's still people have to do
Christmas<00:35:49.960><c> shopping</c><00:35:50.320><c> and</c><00:35:50.440><c> I</c><00:35:50.480><c> think</c><00:35:51.120><c> the</c><00:35:51.240><c> thing</c>

00:35:51.430 --> 00:35:51.440 align:start position:0%
Christmas shopping and I think the thing
 

00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:52.910 align:start position:0%
Christmas shopping and I think the thing
I've<00:35:51.600><c> seen</c><00:35:51.840><c> is</c><00:35:52.000><c> I</c><00:35:52.040><c> think</c><00:35:52.400><c> people</c><00:35:52.720><c> there's</c><00:35:52.880><c> a</c>

00:35:52.910 --> 00:35:52.920 align:start position:0%
I've seen is I think people there's a
 

00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:55.310 align:start position:0%
I've seen is I think people there's a
lot<00:35:53.120><c> of</c><00:35:53.240><c> fatigue</c><00:35:53.840><c> where</c><00:35:54.000><c> I</c><00:35:54.080><c> think</c><00:35:54.320><c> people</c><00:35:55.000><c> they</c>

00:35:55.310 --> 00:35:55.320 align:start position:0%
lot of fatigue where I think people they
 

00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:57.670 align:start position:0%
lot of fatigue where I think people they
to<00:35:55.520><c> try</c><00:35:55.800><c> and</c><00:35:56.040><c> go</c><00:35:56.440><c> earlier</c><00:35:56.920><c> and</c><00:35:57.080><c> harder</c><00:35:57.520><c> and</c>

00:35:57.670 --> 00:35:57.680 align:start position:0%
to try and go earlier and harder and
 

00:35:57.680 --> 00:35:59.470 align:start position:0%
to try and go earlier and harder and
faster<00:35:58.080><c> with</c><00:35:58.240><c> Black</c><00:35:58.480><c> Friday,</c><00:35:58.920><c> I</c><00:35:59.000><c> see</c><00:35:59.280><c> like</c>

00:35:59.470 --> 00:35:59.480 align:start position:0%
faster with Black Friday, I see like
 

00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:02.110 align:start position:0%
faster with Black Friday, I see like
across<00:35:59.840><c> the</c><00:36:00.000><c> e-commerce</c><00:36:01.000><c> industry</c><00:36:01.520><c> and</c><00:36:01.760><c> on</c>

00:36:02.110 --> 00:36:02.120 align:start position:0%
across the e-commerce industry and on
 

00:36:02.120 --> 00:36:03.790 align:start position:0%
across the e-commerce industry and on
the<00:36:02.240><c> same</c><00:36:02.600><c> I</c><00:36:02.840><c> I</c><00:36:02.880><c> kind</c><00:36:03.160><c> of</c><00:36:03.200><c> want</c><00:36:03.320><c> to</c><00:36:03.400><c> put</c><00:36:03.520><c> the</c><00:36:03.600><c> cue</c>

00:36:03.790 --> 00:36:03.800 align:start position:0%
the same I I kind of want to put the cue
 

00:36:03.800 --> 00:36:05.510 align:start position:0%
the same I I kind of want to put the cue
in<00:36:03.880><c> the</c><00:36:03.960><c> rack</c><00:36:04.200><c> after</c><00:36:04.480><c> Black</c><00:36:04.800><c> Friday</c><00:36:05.200><c> and</c><00:36:05.320><c> have</c>

00:36:05.510 --> 00:36:05.520 align:start position:0%
in the rack after Black Friday and have
 

00:36:05.520 --> 00:36:06.270 align:start position:0%
in the rack after Black Friday and have
that

00:36:06.270 --> 00:36:06.280 align:start position:0%
that
 

00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:08.470 align:start position:0%
that
last<00:36:06.600><c> few</c><00:36:06.760><c> weeks</c><00:36:07.040><c> doing</c><00:36:07.360><c> long</c><00:36:07.640><c> lunches</c><00:36:08.120><c> before</c>

00:36:08.470 --> 00:36:08.480 align:start position:0%
last few weeks doing long lunches before
 

00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:10.390 align:start position:0%
last few weeks doing long lunches before
Christmas,<00:36:09.040><c> but</c><00:36:09.560><c> that</c><00:36:09.800><c> that's</c><00:36:10.040><c> actually</c>

00:36:10.390 --> 00:36:10.400 align:start position:0%
Christmas, but that that's actually
 

00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:12.310 align:start position:0%
Christmas, but that that's actually
there's<00:36:10.800><c> a</c><00:36:10.880><c> lot</c><00:36:11.200><c> of</c><00:36:11.360><c> opportunity</c><00:36:11.960><c> in</c><00:36:12.120><c> that</c>

00:36:12.310 --> 00:36:12.320 align:start position:0%
there's a lot of opportunity in that
 

00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:14.390 align:start position:0%
there's a lot of opportunity in that
window<00:36:12.760><c> to</c><00:36:12.960><c> use</c><00:36:13.280><c> all</c><00:36:13.400><c> that</c><00:36:13.640><c> customer</c><00:36:14.080><c> growth</c>

00:36:14.390 --> 00:36:14.400 align:start position:0%
window to use all that customer growth
 

00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:16.350 align:start position:0%
window to use all that customer growth
you've<00:36:14.520><c> had</c><00:36:14.760><c> over</c><00:36:14.960><c> that</c><00:36:15.160><c> period</c><00:36:15.720><c> to</c><00:36:16.200><c> to</c>

00:36:16.350 --> 00:36:16.360 align:start position:0%
you've had over that period to to
 

00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:18.950 align:start position:0%
you've had over that period to to
re-engage<00:36:17.280><c> while</c><00:36:17.720><c> while</c><00:36:18.360><c> there's</c>

00:36:18.950 --> 00:36:18.960 align:start position:0%
re-engage while while there's
 

00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:21.670 align:start position:0%
re-engage while while there's
&gt;&gt; still<00:36:19.640><c> an</c><00:36:19.880><c> iron</c><00:36:20.120><c> in</c><00:36:20.200><c> the</c><00:36:20.280><c> fire</c><00:36:20.680><c> there.</c><00:36:20.960><c> So</c>

00:36:21.670 --> 00:36:21.680 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; still an iron in the fire there. So
 

00:36:21.680 --> 00:36:22.990 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; still an iron in the fire there. So
&gt;&gt; As<00:36:21.760><c> long</c><00:36:21.880><c> as</c><00:36:21.960><c> you</c><00:36:22.040><c> give</c><00:36:22.160><c> yourself</c><00:36:22.600><c> some</c><00:36:22.760><c> room</c>

00:36:22.990 --> 00:36:23.000 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; As long as you give yourself some room
 

00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:24.590 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; As long as you give yourself some room
to<00:36:23.320><c> to</c><00:36:23.440><c> use</c><00:36:23.680><c> it</c><00:36:23.800><c> though.</c><00:36:23.960><c> I</c><00:36:24.000><c> think</c><00:36:24.360><c> I</c><00:36:24.400><c> think</c>

00:36:24.590 --> 00:36:24.600 align:start position:0%
to to use it though. I think I think
 

00:36:24.600 --> 00:36:26.310 align:start position:0%
to to use it though. I think I think
they<00:36:24.720><c> just</c><00:36:25.280><c> the</c><00:36:25.320><c> brands</c><00:36:25.720><c> use</c><00:36:25.880><c> up</c><00:36:26.000><c> all</c><00:36:26.120><c> their</c>

00:36:26.310 --> 00:36:26.320 align:start position:0%
they just the brands use up all their
 

00:36:26.320 --> 00:36:27.910 align:start position:0%
they just the brands use up all their
oxygen<00:36:26.800><c> too,</c><00:36:27.000><c> right?</c><00:36:27.280><c> So</c><00:36:27.400><c> they</c><00:36:27.600><c> go,</c><00:36:27.720><c> "I've</c><00:36:27.800><c> got</c>

00:36:27.910 --> 00:36:27.920 align:start position:0%
oxygen too, right? So they go, "I've got
 

00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:29.750 align:start position:0%
oxygen too, right? So they go, "I've got
nothing<00:36:28.240><c> left.</c><00:36:28.520><c> I've</c><00:36:28.600><c> got</c><00:36:28.760><c> no</c><00:36:29.400><c> I've</c><00:36:29.480><c> got</c><00:36:29.600><c> no</c>

00:36:29.750 --> 00:36:29.760 align:start position:0%
nothing left. I've got no I've got no
 

00:36:29.760 --> 00:36:31.190 align:start position:0%
nothing left. I've got no I've got no
offers<00:36:30.080><c> to</c><00:36:30.200><c> give</c><00:36:30.440><c> you.</c><00:36:30.560><c> I've</c><00:36:30.800><c> like</c><00:36:30.960><c> I</c><00:36:31.000><c> gave</c><00:36:31.160><c> you</c>

00:36:31.190 --> 00:36:31.200 align:start position:0%
offers to give you. I've like I gave you
 

00:36:31.200 --> 00:36:32.630 align:start position:0%
offers to give you. I've like I gave you
literally<00:36:31.560><c> everything.</c><00:36:31.920><c> I've</c><00:36:32.040><c> lost</c><00:36:32.280><c> money</c><00:36:32.520><c> on</c>

00:36:32.630 --> 00:36:32.640 align:start position:0%
literally everything. I've lost money on
 

00:36:32.640 --> 00:36:34.110 align:start position:0%
literally everything. I've lost money on
the<00:36:32.760><c> sale.</c><00:36:33.040><c> How</c><00:36:33.160><c> can</c><00:36:33.280><c> I</c><00:36:33.360><c> possibly</c><00:36:33.800><c> give</c><00:36:33.960><c> you</c><00:36:34.080><c> a</c>

00:36:34.110 --> 00:36:34.120 align:start position:0%
the sale. How can I possibly give you a
 

00:36:34.120 --> 00:36:35.470 align:start position:0%
the sale. How can I possibly give you a
better<00:36:34.360><c> follow-up</c><00:36:34.720><c> experience</c><00:36:35.200><c> cuz</c><00:36:35.360><c> I'm</c>

00:36:35.470 --> 00:36:35.480 align:start position:0%
better follow-up experience cuz I'm
 

00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:37.390 align:start position:0%
better follow-up experience cuz I'm
already<00:36:36.280><c> and</c><00:36:36.480><c> all</c><00:36:36.600><c> those</c><00:36:36.800><c> returns</c><00:36:37.240><c> that</c><00:36:37.360><c> are</c>

00:36:37.390 --> 00:36:37.400 align:start position:0%
already and all those returns that are
 

00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:39.590 align:start position:0%
already and all those returns that are
now<00:36:37.600><c> flowing</c><00:36:37.960><c> back</c><00:36:38.160><c> in</c><00:36:38.320><c> in</c><00:36:38.720><c> in</c><00:36:39.000><c> late</c><00:36:39.240><c> November,</c>

00:36:39.590 --> 00:36:39.600 align:start position:0%
now flowing back in in in late November,
 

00:36:39.600 --> 00:36:41.910 align:start position:0%
now flowing back in in in late November,
December,<00:36:40.080><c> like</c><00:36:40.760><c> man,</c><00:36:41.240><c> like</c><00:36:41.440><c> once</c><00:36:41.600><c> that</c><00:36:41.760><c> whole</c>

00:36:41.910 --> 00:36:41.920 align:start position:0%
December, like man, like once that whole
 

00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:44.590 align:start position:0%
December, like man, like once that whole
quarter<00:36:42.560><c> gets</c><00:36:42.960><c> finished</c>

00:36:44.590 --> 00:36:44.600 align:start position:0%
quarter gets finished
 

00:36:44.600 --> 00:36:46.390 align:start position:0%
quarter gets finished
like<00:36:45.000><c> a</c><00:36:45.120><c> whole</c><00:36:45.360><c> lot</c><00:36:45.480><c> of</c><00:36:45.560><c> activity,</c><00:36:46.040><c> but</c><00:36:46.240><c> who</c>

00:36:46.390 --> 00:36:46.400 align:start position:0%
like a whole lot of activity, but who
 

00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:48.270 align:start position:0%
like a whole lot of activity, but who
actually<00:36:46.640><c> made</c><00:36:46.840><c> some</c><00:36:46.960><c> money,</c><00:36:47.280><c> right?</c><00:36:47.600><c> So,</c>

00:36:48.270 --> 00:36:48.280 align:start position:0%
actually made some money, right? So,
 

00:36:48.280 --> 00:36:49.990 align:start position:0%
actually made some money, right? So,
what<00:36:48.480><c> you</c><00:36:48.600><c> do</c><00:36:48.760><c> with</c><00:36:48.880><c> those</c><00:36:49.040><c> customers</c><00:36:49.600><c> though</c>

00:36:49.990 --> 00:36:50.000 align:start position:0%
what you do with those customers though
 

00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:50.950 align:start position:0%
what you do with those customers though
and

00:36:50.950 --> 00:36:50.960 align:start position:0%
and
 

00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:52.350 align:start position:0%
and
don't<00:36:51.160><c> be</c><00:36:51.240><c> disheartened</c><00:36:51.760><c> when</c><00:36:51.920><c> most</c><00:36:52.160><c> of</c><00:36:52.240><c> them</c>

00:36:52.350 --> 00:36:52.360 align:start position:0%
don't be disheartened when most of them
 

00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:54.070 align:start position:0%
don't be disheartened when most of them
don't<00:36:52.600><c> come</c><00:36:52.800><c> back</c><00:36:53.120><c> cuz</c><00:36:53.320><c> they</c><00:36:53.440><c> won't</c><00:36:53.920><c> cuz</c>

00:36:54.070 --> 00:36:54.080 align:start position:0%
don't come back cuz they won't cuz
 

00:36:54.080 --> 00:36:56.110 align:start position:0%
don't come back cuz they won't cuz
they're<00:36:54.480><c> not</c><00:36:55.120><c> your</c><00:36:55.320><c> type</c><00:36:55.600><c> of</c><00:36:55.680><c> customer.</c>

00:36:56.110 --> 00:36:56.120 align:start position:0%
they're not your type of customer.
 

00:36:56.120 --> 00:36:58.070 align:start position:0%
they're not your type of customer.
They're<00:36:56.240><c> not</c><00:36:56.400><c> part</c><00:36:56.640><c> of</c><00:36:56.720><c> your</c><00:36:56.800><c> tribe.</c><00:36:57.400><c> They're</c>

00:36:58.070 --> 00:36:58.080 align:start position:0%
They're not part of your tribe. They're
 

00:36:58.080 --> 00:36:59.830 align:start position:0%
They're not part of your tribe. They're
just<00:36:58.280><c> people</c><00:36:58.560><c> who</c><00:36:58.800><c> look</c><00:36:59.080><c> for</c><00:36:59.200><c> a</c><00:36:59.240><c> deal</c><00:36:59.560><c> in</c><00:36:59.680><c> that</c>

00:36:59.830 --> 00:36:59.840 align:start position:0%
just people who look for a deal in that
 

00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:01.350 align:start position:0%
just people who look for a deal in that
product<00:37:00.160><c> that</c><00:37:00.360><c> you</c><00:37:00.480><c> just</c><00:37:00.720><c> happen</c><00:37:01.000><c> to</c><00:37:01.120><c> sell</c>

00:37:01.350 --> 00:37:01.360 align:start position:0%
product that you just happen to sell
 

00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:03.190 align:start position:0%
product that you just happen to sell
that<00:37:01.520><c> happened</c><00:37:01.920><c> to</c><00:37:02.000><c> have</c><00:37:02.200><c> your</c><00:37:02.360><c> brand</c><00:37:02.720><c> logo</c><00:37:03.080><c> on</c>

00:37:03.190 --> 00:37:03.200 align:start position:0%
that happened to have your brand logo on
 

00:37:03.200 --> 00:37:06.270 align:start position:0%
that happened to have your brand logo on
it.<00:37:03.920><c> Um</c><00:37:04.480><c> so,</c><00:37:04.840><c> yeah,</c><00:37:05.160><c> I</c><00:37:05.280><c> I</c><00:37:05.400><c> did</c><00:37:05.600><c> so</c><00:37:05.960><c> you</c><00:37:06.040><c> just</c><00:37:06.160><c> got</c>

00:37:06.270 --> 00:37:06.280 align:start position:0%
it. Um so, yeah, I I did so you just got
 

00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:07.150 align:start position:0%
it. Um so, yeah, I I did so you just got
to

00:37:07.150 --> 00:37:07.160 align:start position:0%
to
 

00:37:07.160 --> 00:37:09.110 align:start position:0%
to
filter<00:37:07.560><c> out</c><00:37:07.760><c> all</c><00:37:07.920><c> the</c><00:37:08.400><c> the</c><00:37:08.520><c> ones</c><00:37:08.800><c> that</c><00:37:08.920><c> are</c><00:37:09.000><c> in</c>

00:37:09.110 --> 00:37:09.120 align:start position:0%
filter out all the the ones that are in
 

00:37:09.120 --> 00:37:10.550 align:start position:0%
filter out all the the ones that are in
amongst<00:37:09.400><c> that</c><00:37:09.560><c> that</c><00:37:09.680><c> were</c><00:37:09.800><c> really</c><00:37:10.080><c> good</c><00:37:10.440><c> and</c>

00:37:10.550 --> 00:37:10.560 align:start position:0%
amongst that that were really good and
 

00:37:10.560 --> 00:37:11.790 align:start position:0%
amongst that that were really good and
try<00:37:10.680><c> to</c><00:37:10.800><c> get</c><00:37:10.960><c> them</c><00:37:11.080><c> on</c><00:37:11.200><c> the</c><00:37:11.240><c> train</c><00:37:11.600><c> so</c><00:37:11.680><c> that</c>

00:37:11.790 --> 00:37:11.800 align:start position:0%
try to get them on the train so that
 

00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:13.630 align:start position:0%
try to get them on the train so that
next<00:37:12.200><c> year</c><00:37:12.360><c> hopefully</c><00:37:12.880><c> they</c><00:37:13.040><c> won't</c><00:37:13.400><c> be</c><00:37:13.520><c> the</c>

00:37:13.630 --> 00:37:13.640 align:start position:0%
next year hopefully they won't be the
 

00:37:13.640 --> 00:37:14.750 align:start position:0%
next year hopefully they won't be the
ones

00:37:14.750 --> 00:37:14.760 align:start position:0%
ones
 

00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:16.910 align:start position:0%
ones
that<00:37:15.000><c> chew</c><00:37:15.240><c> up</c><00:37:15.480><c> that</c><00:37:16.120><c> that</c><00:37:16.320><c> sort</c><00:37:16.440><c> of</c><00:37:16.680><c> low</c>

00:37:16.910 --> 00:37:16.920 align:start position:0%
that chew up that that sort of low
 

00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:18.950 align:start position:0%
that chew up that that sort of low
margin<00:37:17.720><c> activity.</c><00:37:18.360><c> You</c><00:37:18.400><c> sort</c><00:37:18.560><c> of</c><00:37:18.640><c> want</c><00:37:18.880><c> your</c>

00:37:18.950 --> 00:37:18.960 align:start position:0%
margin activity. You sort of want your
 

00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:21.110 align:start position:0%
margin activity. You sort of want your
best<00:37:19.160><c> customers</c><00:37:19.560><c> not</c><00:37:19.720><c> to</c><00:37:19.800><c> be</c><00:37:19.880><c> part</c><00:37:20.160><c> of</c><00:37:20.200><c> that.</c>

00:37:21.110 --> 00:37:21.120 align:start position:0%
best customers not to be part of that.
 

00:37:21.120 --> 00:37:23.230 align:start position:0%
best customers not to be part of that.
&gt;&gt; Yeah.<00:37:21.800><c> No,</c><00:37:21.920><c> absolutely.</c><00:37:22.520><c> And</c><00:37:22.600><c> look,</c><00:37:22.880><c> Danny,</c>

00:37:23.230 --> 00:37:23.240 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Yeah. No, absolutely. And look, Danny,
 

00:37:23.240 --> 00:37:24.750 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Yeah. No, absolutely. And look, Danny,
I'm<00:37:23.680><c> I'm</c><00:37:23.840><c> going</c><00:37:24.000><c> to</c><00:37:24.080><c> wrap</c><00:37:24.280><c> it</c><00:37:24.360><c> up</c><00:37:24.480><c> there.</c><00:37:24.600><c> Like</c>

00:37:24.750 --> 00:37:24.760 align:start position:0%
I'm I'm going to wrap it up there. Like
 

00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:26.110 align:start position:0%
I'm I'm going to wrap it up there. Like
I<00:37:24.840><c> said,</c><00:37:25.040><c> but</c><00:37:25.120><c> I've</c><00:37:25.160><c> got</c><00:37:25.240><c> about</c><00:37:25.480><c> 15</c><00:37:25.920><c> other</c>

00:37:26.110 --> 00:37:26.120 align:start position:0%
I said, but I've got about 15 other
 

00:37:26.120 --> 00:37:28.350 align:start position:0%
I said, but I've got about 15 other
questions<00:37:26.600><c> I</c><00:37:26.680><c> can</c><00:37:26.920><c> could</c><00:37:27.160><c> ask</c><00:37:27.480><c> you,</c><00:37:27.560><c> but</c>

00:37:28.350 --> 00:37:28.360 align:start position:0%
questions I can could ask you, but
 

00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:30.270 align:start position:0%
questions I can could ask you, but
I<00:37:28.400><c> always</c><00:37:29.040><c> when</c><00:37:29.200><c> it</c><00:37:29.400><c> Maybe</c><00:37:29.640><c> we</c><00:37:29.760><c> do.</c><00:37:30.000><c> Yeah,</c><00:37:30.200><c> I</c>

00:37:30.270 --> 00:37:30.280 align:start position:0%
I always when it Maybe we do. Yeah, I
 

00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:32.230 align:start position:0%
I always when it Maybe we do. Yeah, I
think<00:37:30.560><c> and</c><00:37:30.760><c> um</c><00:37:31.360><c> I</c><00:37:31.400><c> I</c><00:37:31.480><c> think</c><00:37:31.680><c> every</c><00:37:31.880><c> time</c><00:37:32.120><c> we</c>

00:37:32.230 --> 00:37:32.240 align:start position:0%
think and um I I think every time we
 

00:37:32.240 --> 00:37:33.870 align:start position:0%
think and um I I think every time we
chat<00:37:32.560><c> like</c><00:37:32.760><c> I</c><00:37:32.800><c> think</c><00:37:33.040><c> the</c><00:37:33.120><c> thing</c><00:37:33.360><c> you</c><00:37:33.480><c> can</c><00:37:33.600><c> take</c>

00:37:33.870 --> 00:37:33.880 align:start position:0%
chat like I think the thing you can take
 

00:37:33.880 --> 00:37:36.230 align:start position:0%
chat like I think the thing you can take
away<00:37:34.360><c> is</c><00:37:35.160><c> that</c><00:37:35.480><c> there's</c>

00:37:36.230 --> 00:37:36.240 align:start position:0%
away is that there's
 

00:37:36.240 --> 00:37:38.510 align:start position:0%
away is that there's
have<00:37:36.520><c> good</c><00:37:36.760><c> quality</c><00:37:37.240><c> data.</c>

00:37:38.510 --> 00:37:38.520 align:start position:0%
have good quality data.
 

00:37:38.520 --> 00:37:40.510 align:start position:0%
have good quality data.
Understand<00:37:39.200><c> your</c><00:37:39.280><c> customers</c><00:37:40.200><c> and</c><00:37:40.320><c> do</c>

00:37:40.510 --> 00:37:40.520 align:start position:0%
Understand your customers and do
 

00:37:40.520 --> 00:37:42.230 align:start position:0%
Understand your customers and do
practical<00:37:41.040><c> stuff</c><00:37:41.320><c> with</c><00:37:41.480><c> it.</c><00:37:41.640><c> Like</c><00:37:42.000><c> there's</c>

00:37:42.230 --> 00:37:42.240 align:start position:0%
practical stuff with it. Like there's
 

00:37:42.240 --> 00:37:43.950 align:start position:0%
practical stuff with it. Like there's
always<00:37:42.600><c> something</c><00:37:43.000><c> you</c><00:37:43.120><c> can</c><00:37:43.240><c> be</c><00:37:43.360><c> doing</c><00:37:43.680><c> and</c><00:37:43.920><c> I</c>

00:37:43.950 --> 00:37:43.960 align:start position:0%
always something you can be doing and I
 

00:37:43.960 --> 00:37:45.870 align:start position:0%
always something you can be doing and I
think<00:37:44.400><c> putting</c><00:37:44.680><c> the</c><00:37:45.040><c> putting</c><00:37:45.320><c> yourself</c><00:37:45.800><c> in</c>

00:37:45.870 --> 00:37:45.880 align:start position:0%
think putting the putting yourself in
 

00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:47.310 align:start position:0%
think putting the putting yourself in
the<00:37:46.000><c> perspective</c><00:37:46.560><c> of</c><00:37:46.640><c> the</c><00:37:46.720><c> customers</c><00:37:47.200><c> and</c>

00:37:47.310 --> 00:37:47.320 align:start position:0%
the perspective of the customers and
 

00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:49.470 align:start position:0%
the perspective of the customers and
creating<00:37:47.760><c> a</c><00:37:47.840><c> better</c><00:37:48.480><c> experience</c><00:37:49.120><c> for</c><00:37:49.360><c> them</c>

00:37:49.470 --> 00:37:49.480 align:start position:0%
creating a better experience for them
 

00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:51.910 align:start position:0%
creating a better experience for them
with<00:37:49.600><c> the</c><00:37:49.720><c> data.</c><00:37:50.120><c> It's</c><00:37:50.280><c> it's</c><00:37:50.480><c> win-win</c><00:37:51.080><c> for</c><00:37:51.760><c> all</c>

00:37:51.910 --> 00:37:51.920 align:start position:0%
with the data. It's it's win-win for all
 

00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:53.870 align:start position:0%
with the data. It's it's win-win for all
the<00:37:52.040><c> metrics</c><00:37:52.640><c> that</c><00:37:53.040><c> people</c><00:37:53.440><c> have</c><00:37:53.600><c> if</c><00:37:53.720><c> they're</c>

00:37:53.870 --> 00:37:53.880 align:start position:0%
the metrics that people have if they're
 

00:37:53.880 --> 00:37:55.790 align:start position:0%
the metrics that people have if they're
running<00:37:54.120><c> a</c><00:37:54.160><c> business.</c><00:37:54.680><c> So,</c><00:37:55.280><c> yeah,</c><00:37:55.400><c> everything</c>

00:37:55.790 --> 00:37:55.800 align:start position:0%
running a business. So, yeah, everything
 

00:37:55.800 --> 00:37:57.550 align:start position:0%
running a business. So, yeah, everything
you've<00:37:55.960><c> shared</c><00:37:56.280><c> there</c><00:37:56.440><c> I</c><00:37:56.520><c> think's</c><00:37:57.200><c> got</c><00:37:57.360><c> to</c><00:37:57.440><c> be</c>

00:37:57.550 --> 00:37:57.560 align:start position:0%
you've shared there I think's got to be
 

00:37:57.560 --> 00:38:00.710 align:start position:0%
you've shared there I think's got to be
useful<00:37:57.880><c> for</c><00:37:58.000><c> someone</c><00:37:58.480><c> and</c><00:37:59.400><c> um</c><00:37:59.920><c> yeah,</c><00:38:00.440><c> there's</c>

00:38:00.710 --> 00:38:00.720 align:start position:0%
useful for someone and um yeah, there's
 

00:38:00.720 --> 00:38:02.350 align:start position:0%
useful for someone and um yeah, there's
a<00:38:00.840><c> there's</c><00:38:01.000><c> a</c><00:38:01.080><c> really</c><00:38:01.360><c> good</c><00:38:01.640><c> playbook</c><00:38:02.080><c> I'll</c><00:38:02.240><c> do</c>

00:38:02.350 --> 00:38:02.360 align:start position:0%
a there's a really good playbook I'll do
 

00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:04.070 align:start position:0%
a there's a really good playbook I'll do
one<00:38:02.640><c> of</c><00:38:02.680><c> my</c><00:38:02.800><c> playbook</c><00:38:03.280><c> articles</c><00:38:03.640><c> to</c><00:38:03.760><c> come</c><00:38:03.960><c> out</c>

00:38:04.070 --> 00:38:04.080 align:start position:0%
one of my playbook articles to come out
 

00:38:04.080 --> 00:38:05.470 align:start position:0%
one of my playbook articles to come out
of<00:38:04.160><c> this</c><00:38:04.320><c> one</c><00:38:04.480><c> too,</c><00:38:04.640><c> I</c><00:38:04.720><c> think</c><00:38:04.960><c> cuz</c><00:38:05.160><c> there</c>

00:38:05.470 --> 00:38:05.480 align:start position:0%
of this one too, I think cuz there
 

00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:06.990 align:start position:0%
of this one too, I think cuz there
there's<00:38:05.720><c> so</c><00:38:05.880><c> much</c><00:38:06.120><c> stuff</c><00:38:06.360><c> people</c><00:38:06.640><c> can</c><00:38:06.760><c> take</c>

00:38:06.990 --> 00:38:07.000 align:start position:0%
there's so much stuff people can take
 

00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:09.190 align:start position:0%
there's so much stuff people can take
away<00:38:07.360><c> and</c><00:38:07.920><c> use</c><00:38:08.160><c> across</c><00:38:08.560><c> whether</c><00:38:08.800><c> it's</c><00:38:08.920><c> Black</c>

00:38:09.190 --> 00:38:09.200 align:start position:0%
away and use across whether it's Black
 

00:38:09.200 --> 00:38:11.150 align:start position:0%
away and use across whether it's Black
Friday<00:38:09.680><c> or</c><00:38:09.800><c> their</c><00:38:09.960><c> slowest</c><00:38:10.400><c> part</c><00:38:10.640><c> of</c><00:38:10.720><c> the</c><00:38:10.800><c> year</c>

00:38:11.150 --> 00:38:11.160 align:start position:0%
Friday or their slowest part of the year
 

00:38:11.160 --> 00:38:13.270 align:start position:0%
Friday or their slowest part of the year
or<00:38:11.840><c> Mother's</c><00:38:12.160><c> Day</c><00:38:12.400><c> what</c><00:38:12.600><c> whatever</c><00:38:12.920><c> it</c><00:38:13.000><c> is.</c><00:38:13.160><c> So,</c>

00:38:13.270 --> 00:38:13.280 align:start position:0%
or Mother's Day what whatever it is. So,
 

00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:15.150 align:start position:0%
or Mother's Day what whatever it is. So,
no,<00:38:13.480><c> thank</c><00:38:13.760><c> you</c><00:38:13.960><c> so</c><00:38:14.160><c> much</c><00:38:14.400><c> for</c><00:38:14.520><c> sharing</c><00:38:14.960><c> it</c><00:38:15.080><c> and</c>

00:38:15.150 --> 00:38:15.160 align:start position:0%
no, thank you so much for sharing it and
 

00:38:15.160 --> 00:38:16.990 align:start position:0%
no, thank you so much for sharing it and
all<00:38:15.280><c> of</c><00:38:15.480><c> the</c><00:38:15.600><c> sharing</c><00:38:16.000><c> you</c><00:38:16.080><c> do</c><00:38:16.480><c> through</c>

00:38:16.990 --> 00:38:17.000 align:start position:0%
all of the sharing you do through
 

00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:19.110 align:start position:0%
all of the sharing you do through
through<00:38:17.200><c> what</c><00:38:17.360><c> you</c><00:38:17.440><c> do</c><00:38:17.520><c> at</c><00:38:17.600><c> Omnia.</c><00:38:18.080><c> So,</c>

00:38:19.110 --> 00:38:19.120 align:start position:0%
through what you do at Omnia. So,
 

00:38:19.120 --> 00:38:20.590 align:start position:0%
through what you do at Omnia. So,
um<00:38:19.440><c> yeah,</c><00:38:19.640><c> I</c><00:38:19.680><c> look</c><00:38:19.840><c> forward</c><00:38:20.120><c> to</c><00:38:20.386><c> [music]</c>

00:38:20.590 --> 00:38:20.600 align:start position:0%
um yeah, I look forward to [music]
 

00:38:20.600 --> 00:38:21.790 align:start position:0%
um yeah, I look forward to [music]
sharing<00:38:21.000><c> this</c><00:38:21.160><c> and</c><00:38:21.280><c> yeah,</c><00:38:21.400><c> we'll</c><00:38:21.520><c> definitely</c>

00:38:21.790 --> 00:38:21.800 align:start position:0%
sharing this and yeah, we'll definitely
 

00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:23.670 align:start position:0%
sharing this and yeah, we'll definitely
have<00:38:21.880><c> to</c><00:38:21.920><c> do</c><00:38:22.040><c> a</c><00:38:22.080><c> part</c><00:38:22.480><c> two</c><00:38:22.720><c> soon.</c>

00:38:23.670 --> 00:38:23.680 align:start position:0%
have to do a part two soon.
 

00:38:23.680 --> 00:38:25.630 align:start position:0%
have to do a part two soon.
&gt;&gt; Excellent.<00:38:24.160><c> Oh,</c><00:38:24.280><c> thanks</c><00:38:24.480><c> for</c><00:38:24.560><c> having</c><00:38:24.720><c> me.</c>

00:38:25.630 --> 00:38:25.640 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Excellent. Oh, thanks for having me.
 

00:38:25.640 --> 00:38:26.910 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Excellent. Oh, thanks for having me.
&gt;&gt; Cheers,<00:38:25.880><c> Danny.</c>

00:38:26.910 --> 00:38:26.920 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Cheers, Danny.
 

00:38:26.920 --> 00:38:29.120 align:start position:0%
&gt;&gt; Cheers, Danny.
See<00:38:27.040><c> you.</c>

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